I think it's a passion project for the founder, who built his career on JS and is offended that Oracle (a company famous for deploying lawyers instead of technological expertise) claims to control it.
I think it's a little more than a passion project since it's posted on the official deno blog. I don't think it's a net negative of a pursuit, but I follow the founder of bun on twitter and he just keeps shipping shit whereas the most I hear from Deno is this lawsuit.
I'm not saying Deno doesn't have merits, I just wonder if this is the thing they should be focused on
Maybe don't trust your Twitter feed to be a balanced information diet.
But yes, Bun's current strategy is "churn out code" whereas Deno has a different pace and approach. They're trying to build different things, and have a lot less catch-up to play than Bun.
> But yes, Bun's current strategy is "churn out code" whereas Deno has a different pace and approach. They're trying to build different things, and have a lot less catch-up to play than Bun.
Are they trying to build different things? I feel like they're direct competitors.
Are you a Deno user? Curious what your experience has been
Deno 2 was a major release entirely about shoring up Node compatibility. That's arguably a big reason for why Bun seems to have a higher velocity right now of the trio. Deno put in a ton of engineering into Node/npm compatibility, it shows, and right now I would recommend trying Deno as having suprisingly few compatibility/ecosystem issues remaining.
(Deno has not stayed entirely still, other new features were added outside of that compatibility effort, but Bun doesn't have Node compatibility as much as a goal today and so gets the fast mover award.)
I started using Deno in hobby projects because I like the out-of-the-box defaults a lot better than Node (deno.json is a lot simpler than a lot of the cruft that package.json has acquired, but also includes more things in one place like out of the box eslint support [deno lint] and prettier-equivalent [deno fmt]). Also, Deno Deploy has a generous free tier and that's a healthy incentive for hobby projects that want a modest database (Deno KV) and basic task processing queues.
I also used Deno for some side projects before 1.0 and I really like it. Especially its focus on web stanrards, and yes, being an all-in-one tool. But I don't have the time or inclination for a lot of side projects these days.
I actually feel much more warmly to Deno than Bun, and would use it if I felt like it made sense. I tried to avoid advocating either way in my former posts in this thread. But regardless of my personal feelings, at work pragmatism rules the day.
