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Only if you get caught. And the fine needs to be higher than the profit.





It’s pretty easy to learn how fidelity and others make money on fee-free index funds. Perhaps something to look into before accusing them of committing a crime.

Considering someone or some activity to be criminal, and accusing them of being a criminal, are two completely different things.

I consider most financial institutions to be criminal because it is always their clear intention to circumvent the spirit of the law as closely as possible. The intention is to reap the benefits of breaking the law, without the risk of consequence. When the pitchforks come, these are going to be the criminals being chased down the street.

By the same token, I do not consider a parent who writes a bad check for groceries to be a criminal.


The client generally saves money in the PFOF situation. They benefit, their broker benefits, and the market maker they deal with benefits. The only loser is the abstract rest of the market being able to get fewer penny shavings.

What in particular do you see as against the spirit of the law?


PFOF does not violate the spirit of the law

I think the fine needs to be higher than the profit difference between the (illegal) and not illegal option.

If you have a legal route to $1M and an illegal route to $1.5M, the rational calculation for fines is against the $0.5M delta, not the full amount.


The illegal 1.5 is always the optimal game theory choice because the chance of getting caught is not 100%

To use an absurd example just to make it incredibly obvious why what you said doesn't make sense, would that hold up if the fine if caught was $10 trillion dollars?

Then shareholders would demand executives have skin in the game and suffer if a company got the death penalty like you describe. Would likely lead to a much better world. Golden parachutes would not be a thing if shareholders got liquidated like that.

Only if they're mutually exclusive.



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