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Are there any fan theories of what the work is they’re doing?

My bet is on lumen “renting” part of their subconscious to train a computer, while their conscious minds see a sort of projection of the training, and the act of selecting the numbers has a mirror effect on the part of the brain they’re renting, affecting the model training. But that may be a little too “current events” focused, and the writers may have something totally different in mind.






My theory is kind of the inverse. Their technology has the ability to "take over" the mind and implant a new personality but maybe at the current level it's unsophisticated and all they can do is make a "clean slate" of a person with some basic motor, language and other socialization skills.

"The work" is then not about training a computer model but seeing if they can induce a reaction into a person. That is, they're trying to refine their mind control program.

The characters talk about feeling things when they group numbers for binning. So the task is about refining their projection system, to induce a particular emotion or reaction, in a controlled way, over and over to dial in the technology.

From season 1, there's lore of MDR going crazy and killing a neighboring group. This could be when their experimentation malfunctioned or was too sloppy in some way and induced a killing frenzy.

I have no idea what "cold harbor" is though, or why Mark S. is so special among the other innies.


Agreed with your theory overall, but wasn’t that lore of “MDR going crazy and killing a neighboring group” revealed in s1 to be fabricated entirely, with each group having their own version of that lore against other groups? E.g., the optics and design group had the exact opposite version of the lore as MDR, down to paintings depicting the events being the exact same, but with swapped badge colors that indicated the aggressor.

Just a theory on my part, and I'm trying to build evidence from clues in the series, so you might be right.

We know that there's a lot of unreliable information because Lumon is actively trying to deceive everyone but my take on that was that there was a significant event that actually did happen, some group going crazy, that Lumon needed to rationalize with some narrative in order to address it.

Just to list some events after re-watching some of season 1:

* s1e3 Dylan talks about O&D staging a coup but Mark assures everyone that there was no killing

* s1e5 Irving intercepts a print job that was sent to their print station "by mistake". The picture shows people with green badges (O&D) attacking people with blue badges (MDR). Immediately revealed to be a subterfuge attempt ("you ran a 266 on Irving B." Cobel to Miltchek)

* s1e5 Dylan finds a painting in O&D depicting the same picture that Irving saw on the printer but with the attackers as blue badges and the victims as green badges ("The Macro Data Refinement Calamity")

So this very well may be subterfuge by Lumon to keep the groups separate.

I read it differently initially, that the printed copy was altered from the original painting and that the original painting was the "true" version, but I think your take is probably more consistent. If Lumon can erase memory then there's no need to keep institutional knowledge about past events that no one remembers.

Some other tidbits of information:

* s1e2 and s1e5 Irving hallucinates black goo while in front of his terminal. I believe as soon as he stands up or backs away from his terminal, the effect goes away.

* s1e3 Natalie is shown on tv talking about a "workie" getting pregnant while severed

* s1e5 Devon goes to a house to give birth and meets someone who's severed. I think the house or property is owned by Lumon (but I'm not sure?)

So, I suspect Mark S.'s sister, Devon, might be the severed employee who got pregnant while severed, though I'm not sure how this fits into the larger narrative if true.

Also, I might be reading too much into it but there's clues sprinkled around about immortality and "Kier speaking through people" that might be support the theory of them trying to resurrect Kier. There's a scene where Cobel gets Petey's chip with a line that says "that's Petey".

So far the series has delivered and I trust the writers, so I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.


My theory is that all the severed employees are doing various maintenance tasks to keep the floor functioning. Like the hospital in Yes, Minister that is closed to the public but has 500 employees, all of them overworked.[1]

Take O&D for instance, their full time job appears to be to just create art and handbooks used on the severed floor. Perhaps all the departments are like that. MDR could be doing some sort of ongoing maintenance for the severed system itself, like emotion or memory control of the employees on the floor.

I believe the "point" of the severed floor is not the actual work that's being done, but the act of keeping them occupied while they are experimented on. Besides Mark S and Cold Harbor, I believe there are hints of other experiments being run. The dreams Irving B has during work seem unique to him, and it's uniquely affecting his outie as well. I also believe recent events in Season 2 with Dylan G could be the start of another experiment.

^1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAk448volww


I thought the wife was oddly emotional during that scene with Dylan G. While I agree it would be odd to see your SO's innie, the way she was in awe and full of emotion just seemed very intense. Like seeing a long lost lover or those first date jitters. Probably overthinking things but I thought it was odd.

My take was that she's dissatisfied with her marriage with her outie husband who seems detached and a bit wayward, whereas the innie has purpose and drive and finds her awe inspiring.

I'm almost certain it's going to turn into a love affair with deep questions - is she cheating? Well, on paper, no, but it's obviously more nuanced than that.


That + the whole concept must be just uncanny to face in real life as opposed to just being aware of it.

It is one thing to know “my husband goes to work, but there he simply doesn’t remember anything outside of work, and vice versa at home”, and another to see it for yourself and realizing “holy shit, this is actually just another entirely unrelated brand new person occupying the body of the husband i live and raise children with for half a day.”

Not even mentioning all the potential implications that might have crossed her mind after facing it in reality. That person is nothing like my husband in any way, where did that new person come from, were they just born out of nothing? Could they potentially unknowingly get switched with my husband outside of the workplace and what would that mean? What happens to that person if my husband quits the job?


That's my take too. She will fall in love with the hard working aspect of him.

I wonder also, did the innie take all of the good traits and the bad ones are... Gone, from the outie?


I think it was because she was finally meeting the version of her husband that could hold down a job and was good at what he did.

My spouse not even recognizing me might have some emotional impact. Didn’t seem the least bit odd.

My guess is that they're setting up the wife being more in to the innie than the outie.

To me, she seemed taken aback by his foul-mouthedness. Maybe his outie is more "reserved".

My hunch is that Lumon is working on trying to transfer minds into new bodies and/or bring deceased people back to life, namely for the immortality of the founder. I think the MDR numbers stuff is somehow related to getting severed individuals to map memories somehow, hence their association with different feelings.

My thought was that their ultimate goal is to recreate the mind of their founder and place it into a cloned body.

This is also my running theory. Cult-like structure focused on elongating legacies via body replacements and consciousness transfer - MDR being a testbed or something for emotional stability and processing or something of the sort.

I think clones or androids seem likely.

It's been suggested that Mark S is adjusting the neural nets for a robot replacement of his wife. This supported by a few MDR UI screenshots showing acronyms that reference Kier's 4 fundamental tempers: Woe, Frolick, Malice and Dread.

My opinion is that the work they are performing it's not the point of them being there. It's about testing the limits of the exploitations of human beings.

We know the Cold Harbor file is related to Gemma/Ms. Casey. There's a theory that Mark is somehow resurrecting her by refining that file.

Mark Scout's wife is in a coma, they want to bring her back and reconstruct her soul using MDR.

This seems like the most interesting way to go - “last time I saw her she was alive” really was a choice of words.

The whole concept of the show is artificial amnesia, so what if the concept is induced amnesia to solve for it?


Best I can figure is that it's some form of cryptography. The "severed" thing would be to compartmentalize even more what the underlying work is, the outties are clueless, but even the innies don't get to know what they do because the work is encrypted. They're able to perform it because another part of their brain is severed even more, and just performs the raw algorithm work of decrypting/sorting.

But the rest of Lumen just seems like some bizarro "there's a spaceship hiding in the tail of the comet" cult.


There are a ton of theories out there. A lot of mine relate to Whedon's crueler "Dollhouse" show.

Also, one of the rabbit holes for a bunch of the theories is the Lexington Letter, which you can find in Apple Books or wikis/PDFs.


I believe the folks in MDR are working on refining artificial consciousness.

I also believe the people in R&D help with refinement by inducing objects into the consciousness and testing the output via 3D printing.

Perhaps MDR works on the emotional side, while R&D works on the imagination or construction of thoughts.



They’re sorting people according to the four tempers of Eagan - woe, frolic, dread and malice. The buttons are labelled accordingly, using two letters on the show but one letter here.

I mean obviously this is actually how LLMs work.

(Season One predates the LLM bubble, so almost certainly not.)




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