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Working at a startup before product-market fit can feel like this.

You don’t know why the work is important, but it must be done so we can at least discover whether it was important. You may not get that information, but you can take comfort in assuming someone does have it.

You’re mostly disconnected from your previous life.

There is a guy in the next office feeding baby goats, and your reaction is: “Yes, it makes sense that we’re also exploring feeding baby goats.”

People come in as blank slates and you’re grateful to have their companionship in the shared madness.






I find this more likely in a large corporation. In my experience, in a startup I know what we're trying to accomplish even if I don't know how we're going to do it, yet. I have a lot of control in a startup and I'm wearing a lot of hats which gives me visibility into how things are going.

By contrast, in a corporation you're handed a small piece of the puzzle and you're not sure how it's important or if it's really necessary and you're reliant on others in far flung parts of the company to relay how things are going.

I kind of think that people who haven't worked in a large corporation probably don't get Severance on a visceral level like those of us who have do.


Startups can be as siloed and prone to messianic cults of personality as large corporations do. It would be themed differently from Severance, sure, but there are other shows that tackle that.

> Startups can be as siloed and prone to messianic cults of personality as large corporations do

Oh, probably more prone to messianic cults of personality than large corps. But as you say there are other shows that tackle that angle. I don't think it's a secret that many tech startup founders have sociopathic tendencies and delusions of grandeur. I've certainly seen that close up even in tiny early-stage startups that never ended up going anywhere.


This completely misses the disturbing horror aspect of the show.

Severe enough burnout at a startup (or crunch-mode game studio, or similar) can give you a reasonable simulacrum of that.

Come in, go home, come back. Did something actually happen that wasn’t work? Unclear.


>come in, go home, come back.

https://youtu.be/2n34NrkDlZk

this felt germane


to me it isn't about burnout, etc. To me the show is a metaphor for "nothing personal just business" - for how people may turn off that human personality inside them and do whatever is "just doing my job/following the order".

I don’t think it’s either, I think they’re working on a way to get secrets out of the human brain.

Mark my words.


The severance procedure is about slavery.

Undergoing the severance procedure and having your "innie" work at Lumon is exactly akin to having your own personal slave. The innie does all the work, the outie collects the paycheck. The outie controls whether the innie lives or dies, since the innie literally does not exist outside of work.

I guess another part of the tradeoff is that you're giving up a significant part of your life time-wise. The number of waking hours experienced by the outie would be substantially reduced (presumably around 40 fewer hours per week). Overtime would really suck, especially if unpaid. From the perspective of the outie, working overtime would be exactly equivalent to the company taking away additional hours of their life.


yes, that sounds also reasonable. Like a good piece of art it allows a range of interpretations. At the same time it being Ben Stiller, i see his absurd comedy treatment of whatever serious interpretation we come up with, Space Force on [dark and heavy] steroids.

That’s funny because I thought they captured it perfectly. Cults can be blissful places; the experience and friends I’ve made amidst the madness I’ve experienced in startups made me stronger in the end.

Yeah, to me the show was much more about how every modern real company secretly wished they could sever their employees, and how much they'd abuse that power dynamic if they actually had it.

Work without workers? Perfect!


ah yes the pineapple



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