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earl who replied to you seems to have been hell-banned. So I am copying his comment because I think it adds valuable data points.

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   Amazon is experiencing tons of growth right now, the last thing they want to 
   do is keep having to rehire associate workers. If you are good, there is no 
   reason why they should fire you.
Kindly educate yourself before writing [1]. Because despite your hypotheticals, it's well documented that amazon is doing precisely that: hiring tons of workers, firing them very quickly, and intimidating injured ones into signing papers saying it wasn't from the job. Amazon even stage ambulances outside their unconditioned warehouses in order to be prepared when employees get sick and have to be taken to hospital because of heat.

From the article:

   Temporary employees interviewed said few people in their working groups 
   actually made it to a permanent Amazon position. Instead, they said they 
   were pushed harder and harder to work faster and faster until they were 
   terminated, they quit or they got injured. Those interviewed say turnover at 
   the warehouse is high and many hires don't last more than a few months.
This whole program is a bullshit ruse to deflect criticism. Because guess what: the first thing a student needs is a reliable schedule. Mandatory overtime kills taking classes, because your butt often needs to be in the seat at a fixed time, particularly for tests.

[1] http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-allentown-amazon-complain....

[2] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/mac-mcclelland-f....




Why on earth was earl "hellbanned"? His post completely made sense and his account has 4334 karma. I'm emailing him now to tell him.


It happens to a lot of people.


That's disturbing since a hellbanning is a much more vile punishment than a simple ban. Why is it doled out so casually?


It's probably a case of an anti-spam algorithm gone wrong. At least, that's what I remember hearing about a previous incident.


No, it's almost always done directly by a human if your account itself is hellbanned.


The only case I'm aware of where pg has commented indicated that a person posted a link that was being spammed on HN in one of their comments and got banned accidentally.


The reason for the fast hiring is to get ready for peak times. They hire tons of temporary workers from local agencies, and when there is no more work, they are let go. That's what temporary agencies are for. The only difference between Amazon and others who use temp agencies, is that Amazon hires 10s of thousands of employees to work in response to seasonal work. I don't really see your point here.

The whole program is not bullshit, and let me tell you why. Once upon a time during my early years of college, I held a full-time job for a logistics company doing work in a warehouse. I worked at night and went to school during the day. I took every opportunity of overtime I could take and still managed to do well in school. Keep in mind that my tuition was not that much, but I saved every dollar so it would go towards schooling. You know how much misery $2,000 grand would have saved me? There are much worser places to work and I am not saying that Amazon is setting the bar, but they are improving quite a bit.

Also, your sources don't work.




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