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It's GPL. How is the license not the best?



See the attached CLA [0] and Privacy Policy [1].

[0]: https://zed.dev/cla

[1]: https://zed.dev/privacy-policy


And yet, ST is closed source. Still a wild comparison.

This isn’t just license preference either. I would imagine the efforts of the sublime lsp people would be greatly eased if they had access to the source.

But nah zed bad because cla.


No it's not. I mostly find closed source application with clear lines more trustworthy than openwashed software.

I'm a big Free Software supporter. For my personal projects, I only use (A)GPLv3 or later.

However, I have a problem with software which comes with "GPLv3 BUT..." licenses. We have seen how CLAs weaponized against their contributors with rugpull license changes.

Also, Zed was closed source at first. I had beta access to that thing. Then they pivoted to "Open source with closed source collaboration servers" thing, and they claimed rights on anything passing through their servers (collaboration / zed-ai).

When software stops being local-only, being Free Software loses half the meaning, because you can do all the nefarious things on the backend, without people seeing them. "We only send harmless usage data" you may say, but you don't say how you process and which other signals you mix into that data from other sources or data brokers. That's a problem.

Remember Go's opt-out telemetry debacle. The math was solid, it was anonymous, yes. However it was forced opt-out via an environment variable, so the burden was continuously on us, the users.

If the Go team didn't change it to opt-in, I was ready to drop Go as a programming language, like many individuals and companies. Now the telemetry is opt-in, and users have better control.

These things are nuanced. We should be diligent. For example, Eclipse (my favorite IDE for the last two decades) has CLA, but they never abused the power they have, plus that thing is Apache 2.0 licensed. However, Zed's actions, combined with their privacy policy, doesn't inspire confidence, so I don't use it, and share my view about Zed.

If you don't agree that's fine, but pointing fingers like that is not.

As I said, I have chosen BBEdit over sublime 15 years ago, and still use that, and if BBEdit can detect and run any supported LSP OOTB, like magic, Sublime can do the same technically. So they should barrage the bug tracker. It's on Sublime to make it better. It's closed source, so the developer has forced themselves to fix it by making it closed source.


> Then they pivoted to "Open source with closed source collaboration servers" thing, and they claimed rights on anything passing through their servers (collaboration / zed-ai).

Does this apply if you use it same as Sublime? That is without collaboration / ai.


In my eyes, yes.

In Zed's case, it's already dependent on "Magik". It constantly downloads something to provide some functionality. I can't vet, follow, verify that thing all day long.

Moreover, if it wasn't doing that, again yes.

If they didn't provide the functionality to begin with, then they can move on to "let's evaluate whether it's acceptable" phase.




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