> Nobody has a right to have someone else pay them money.
In the not too distant past, you didn't need money to live. If you wanted to brave the elements, make your own shelter, grow/gather/hunt your own food, and deal with the threats on your own, you could do that. Now, you can't do that. Everything is owned. You need to have money to buy or lease land to live on. If nobody gives you money (or land), you can't make a life for yourself, because one must live on land, and all the land is owned.
Does this mean that people have a right to receive money? I'm not sure about that. I think the argument that people should have a right to be able to work and receive money has some merit, although certainly flaws too. It is at least worth considering that the world and society has changed and crystallized substantially over the last couple centuries, and the system of money is forced upon everyone.
> In the not too distant past, you didn't need money to live.
Are you calling prehistory the not too distance past? From what I can tell from history most useful land was owned by someone. How it was owned varied, from tribes that kept other tribes off their land (no personal ownership), villages that kept protected the local's land, "lords" that had control of various amounts of lands.
Sometimes there were plagues and so for a short time you could find land that nobody controlled, but that didn't last long if the land was useful. It might be enough for you to establish yourself on that land, but it wasn't a constant thing.
If you want to go live in the woods and live off the land there are plenty of places you can do that. Go to Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, you will absolutely be able to find a place where you can do exactly this.
That you can't do it in Suffolk or Santa Clara County is not proof it's impossible.
@pc86 hi thanks for your reply!
I'm not from the US so I don't understand how this works, maybe you would be kind enough to explain it to me?
Like which land specifically a person could go to to live off of. Are there unowned patches of land in the regions you mentioned? One specific example where I could go tomorrow, set up a hut and live my eremite life without anyone bothering me. I certainly assume that there are places where one could sneak through, not getting noticed etc. but it seems your claim is that one could do the dropout life legally?
In the not too distant past, you didn't need money to live. If you wanted to brave the elements, make your own shelter, grow/gather/hunt your own food, and deal with the threats on your own, you could do that. Now, you can't do that. Everything is owned. You need to have money to buy or lease land to live on. If nobody gives you money (or land), you can't make a life for yourself, because one must live on land, and all the land is owned.
Does this mean that people have a right to receive money? I'm not sure about that. I think the argument that people should have a right to be able to work and receive money has some merit, although certainly flaws too. It is at least worth considering that the world and society has changed and crystallized substantially over the last couple centuries, and the system of money is forced upon everyone.