Thank you. I expectedly disagree, but there's no point in arguing. I simply don't get much chance in this atmosphere to get well thought out answers contrary to my own views.
I'll just say this:
>correct this significant, and as far as I'm aware unprecedented, abuse of the judiciary and he delivered on that promise.
This is extremely common because "speedy" was simply never defined. Taking months over minor non-violent crimes like drug usage as an example. Given the chaos in identifying all suspects (IIRC they were never all fully discovered, an atrocity in and of itself in our police system), I'm not too surprised it took years to try everyone caught.
No one's probably chomping at the bit to re-define "speedy" better:
>a trial conducted according to prevailing rules and procedures that takes place without unreasonable or undue delay or within a statutory period.
but I think we both agree this is a very vauge, insufficient definition.
>Thank you. I expectedly disagree, but there's no point in arguing. I simply don't get much chance in this atmosphere to get well thought out answers contrary to my own views.
I also appreciate that we can have a peaceful, friendly, normal conversation about this unlike how these things would usually transpire up until just recently, so thanks.
To be charged with a crime signals the beginning of a trial, a conviction signals the conclusion of a trial with a guilty verdict.
From an archived DoJ page[1] at the year 3 (January 2024) mark, ~1200 defendants were charged and 171 were convicted (32 without a trial). 749 were sentenced in total.
So that's presumably still more than several hundred defendants waiting for what should be a speedy trial.
Again, that is not how we should operate in this country. If you accuse (charge) someone of a crime their trial should be brought as swiftly as possible as mandated by the Constitution. That this was not done is by itself enough cause to pardon them, let alone the exaggeration of the charges presented.
Also, to close things out:
>The 'back the blue' and 'tough on crime' party is a total farce.
Trump and Republicans enjoyed and continue to enjoy the approval and cooperation of law enforcement agencies across the country both before and after the pardons were issued.
> From an archived DoJ page[1] at the year 3 (January 2024) mark, ~1200 defendants were charged and 171 were convicted (32 without a trial). 749 were sentenced in total.
The number sentenced cannot be higher than the number convicted (and the source document, unlike your summary, does not make that impossible claim), since sentencing requires conviction.
> So that's presumably more than several hundred defendants waiting for what should be a speedy trial.
Many of them were charged substantially after the event, “Speedy trial” refers to the time from charging to trial (the time from event to charges is governed by statute of limitations, not speedy trial rights.)
