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Or food poisoning from drinking milk.





Yes, alright, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what has the federal government ever done for us?

Heh, good Life of Brian quote that one. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ


My local government runs all those, federal just provides the funding. Redistribution of tax proceeds is enough of a job to excuse everything else for you?

> My local government runs all those

Your local government runs all your roads, canals, railroads and public order? Even the largest cities in America parcel that out to the federal government.


Well, we don't really have much in the way of canals or railroads, but they do the actual maintenance and construction of roads in the first place. They also enforce the traffic laws (which they also set for the most part), maintain and install the signage, etc. The local and state police are obviously run by local government. Federal police are obviously not.

Then we can cut the federal funding of weapons and equipment for police that comes from the federal government. Right?

> we don't really have much in the way of canals or railroads

How do goods get into and out of your town? Are you connected to a grid? Do you use GPS?


Roads. There's a large port nearby, but it doesn't depend on canals. The electrical grid is also maintained by the state along with the other states on the same regional grid, again, the federal contribution is largely limited to funding.

GPS, OK, that's useful and it's existence depend(-s/-ed?) on the federal government/military I guess.


> Roads

And who builds the big roads?

> a large port nearby

Who makes it viable by protecting international shipping, guarding the coast and regulating port infrastructure? (If you’re on a Great Lake, it absolutely depends on canals. That and Canada.)

> electrical grid is also maintained by the state along with the other states on the same regional grid

Not how North American grids work, outside Alaska, Texas, Florida and maybe the SPP. States have influence on NERC through the utilities. Grids don’t line up neatly with state lines, and the whole mess requires regular federal coordination.


@Jump You're talking to a wall man.

“Redistribution of tax proceeds” is a snide way of saying “totally facilitating societies value concentration to get the things you depend on done”.

It's also something that could be handled by an excel spreadsheet as long as the budget was set. Providing a forum for the states to argue about issues is an actually useful and non-redundant thing that the federal government does - setting the budget wouldn't work without it. The facilitation of interstate commerce through a federated union is a great thing. A coordinated foreign policy and unified military is more effective and probably more efficient. The federal government isn't useless or lacking any impact at all on my life, but the state and local governments are far, far more involved in "getting the things I depend on done", and many of the things federal government does could probably be done without a federal government or with much less of one.

Well, the stories goes that's actually an Al Capone gift to society



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