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> it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.

Or maybe such people have far better things to do than fact check concern trolls and paid propagandists.




I pay for some news subscriptions now. I actually love it. Read it, support journalism , log off. Done.


Right, so from where?

Many of us might pay for journalism if we knew who was producing content not already beholden to some ridiculous bias sink.


Checkout Ground News. Then you can choose your specific poison :)


There do seem to be a lot of people who enjoy fact checking concern trolls and paid propagandists.

I'm not sure if they do more good than harm. Often the entire point seems to be to get those specific people spun up, realizing that the troll is not constrained to admit error no matter how airtight the refutation. It just makes them look as frothing as trolls claim they are.

And yet, it's also unclear if any other course of action would help. Despite decades of pleading, the trolls never starve no matter how little they're fed.


> Often the entire point seems to be to get those specific people spun up, realizing that the troll is not constrained to admit error no matter how airtight the refutation.

Your point is exactly why I can’t take anyone serious who claims that randoms “debating” will cause the best ideas to rise to the top.

I cant count how many times i’ve seen influencer propagandists engage in an online “debate”, be handheld walked through how their entire point is wrong, only for them to spew the exact same thing hours later at the top of every feed. and remember these are often the people with some of the largest platforms claiming they’re being censored … to millions of people lol.

it’s too easy to manipulate what rises to the top. for debate to be anything close to effective all parties involved have to actually be interested in coming closer to a truth. and the algorithms have no interest in deranking sophists and propagandists.


> And yet, it's also unclear if any other course of action would help. Despite decades of pleading, the trolls never starve no matter how little they're fed.

Downvotes that hide posts below a certain threshold have always seemed like the best approach to me. Of course it also allows groups to silence views.




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