Speaking as someone who has dealt professionally with several dozens of suicides and hundreds of attempts, as a paramedic, I'd like to add the following notes of caution:
It's very easy to claim that your mental health emergency was an "accident" or "overreaction", and so forth. "No, I'm not really suicidal, I just lost myself for a moment or got overwhelmed. Everything is fine now/I'm going to see someone to help me cope/get the help I need/I was never -actually- suicidal"... and then commit suicide in very short order.
Denial is a stage of grief. I have had many family members tell me to be careful when responding to their loved ones, "because it's a crime scene" or similar, "because they've never shown any mental health issues", "would never do this to themselves", "would never do it to those they loved" that... go on to be ruled suicide.
I'm not saying anything about this particular case, but it's very easy to see a smoking gun when you're predisposed to it (and I'm not someone who is a particular fan of OpenAI/SamA, etc., hardly a defender).
It's not an either-or. It could be an Aaron Swarz, the persecution by his opponents triggered his own mental health and thus a suicidal response. Here, the material effect of ostracism and isolation, destruction of his livelihood as the price of being a critic/apostate/whistleblower--that can lead people to becoming suicidal.
Never said it was, and I know nothing to understand what happened here.
I'm just saying, people should pause and reflect before jumping on the conspiracy theories immediately. It was similar with someone else recently. "If you're reading this know that I would never commit suicide". People immediately sprung to the conspiracy.
That's because of your framing that it must be a conspiracy theory people are jumping on. How many people are actually doing that, and why is it so important to shut that sector down? There's an analytical context to these kinds of disagreements.
I'm not trying to shut any sector down. You can read previous remarks here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42412718 for all manner of comments like "why would he commit suicide?" and other assumptions.
ALL I am saying is that a person's claims that they are not suicidal are very rarely meaningful when investigating what appears to be a suicide. People say that every day to get out of mental health holds, etc.
And parents who can't believe that their child would commit suicide is also rarely meaningful. It doesn't point to a conspiracy because of how well they know their child.
I think you're almost spinning my comments as trying to shut down any semblance of conspiracy. Like I said, read HN articles on this and the Boeing whistleblower and you'll find several claims that they "could not" have been suicide because the person involved "previously promised they were not suicidal", or similar. That's all.
It's very easy to claim that your mental health emergency was an "accident" or "overreaction", and so forth. "No, I'm not really suicidal, I just lost myself for a moment or got overwhelmed. Everything is fine now/I'm going to see someone to help me cope/get the help I need/I was never -actually- suicidal"... and then commit suicide in very short order.
Denial is a stage of grief. I have had many family members tell me to be careful when responding to their loved ones, "because it's a crime scene" or similar, "because they've never shown any mental health issues", "would never do this to themselves", "would never do it to those they loved" that... go on to be ruled suicide.
I'm not saying anything about this particular case, but it's very easy to see a smoking gun when you're predisposed to it (and I'm not someone who is a particular fan of OpenAI/SamA, etc., hardly a defender).