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For most people, it is too taxing to be on guard 24/7 and they have other things going on in their life that are more pressing like paying rent. I don't blame people for not thinking twice about that Ring camera because unlike most open-source solutions, "it just works."



That's why it would be nice for democracy to work and give us some enforced regulations


I agree fully but I'm going to play devil's advocate and say the person who just won the election won the popular vote so whatever you are about to get is democracy in action because the majority of people voted for what is about to happen.


No it isn't. A democracy only works with informed voters. The amount of lies and obfuscation spewed by Trump's campaign is a successful attempt to deliberately break democracy. They don't have a mandate to do much besides mass deportation because they didn't talk about firing the entire federal workforce during the campaign. Project 2025 does talk about that but Trump lied during the campaign and said he disavowed it.

I think oligarch Peter Thiel gave away the game in this clip at 3:26 where he says "you can make pro Trump arguments but that's the democratic question"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luTHVKFi3dc&t=3m24s


> No it isn't. A democracy only works with informed voters.

By that logic we can never have a working democracy because collectively voters will always be ignorant and misinformed to some extent. We can't force voters to educate themselves on the issues and can't stop them from lying to themselves or to each other. We can do things to improve the situation, just as there has been a sustained and coordinated effort to make the situation worse, but (gerrymandering aside) we don't get to pick our voters in a democracy.

The last election was as democratic as we should ever expect it to be. Having the freedom to elect our government, by necessity, means having the freedom to elect someone who will take our freedom from us, and if we've done that we'll have only ourselves to blame.


My real problem is with the claim that they have a mandate to tear the government apart. That's not what they told voters during the election. They don't have a mandate for that.


They absolutely told voters during the election they were going to destroy government. They might not have said "Project 2025 is how we are going to dismantle the government" but he said he was going to give himself the ability to remove "rogue" federal employees and overhaul or remove federal agencies.


Woah woah woah, let’s not get hasty here. Can’t we think of the shareholders for once?




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