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Sovereign citizen activities basically have no correlation with intelligence or political views. It's such a strange category of weirdness.



By what definition of intelligence? :)

It seems like a waste of time at best. But have any sovereign citizen got what they wanted at the end of any kind of proceeding?

It seems like a very bad strategy to solve their own selfish problems. (DUI, speeding, not paying taxes, going against gun regulations, etc.)

And this strategy is usually coming from being unfortunately so tragically misinformed that they cannot help but reject the boring standard model of reality for a bouquet of conspiracy theories.


They do "win" sometimes. The rational person just pays the ticket. The sovcit demands a jury trial and, rarely, gets a win when a deal is offered or a witness fails to show. And often just having the proceeding is the win. They get off on being the center of attention. Defending themselves in court is the one time all the important people have to listen to them. They enjoy it.


Do you not have to pay court costs if you’re convicted? That’s a pretty bad gamble if you get convicted maybe 90% of the time?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the defendant has to pay court costs anyway, win or lose, criminal or civil.


I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_costs which generally seems to say that you only have to pay in criminal cases if convicted, or in some states never. To clarify, I'm not talking about the costs of your own attorney, but the cost charged by the court itself.

I was asking because in Germany, you generally (only) have to pay if you're convicted, I think.


Some people like to portray petty mostly victimless lawlessness as sovereign citizen shenanigans as a means to discredit the reasoning that lead to those people to decide not to follow the law.

Not everyone who doesn't get a building permit or a fishing license is a sovereign citizen.




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