I think your comment would be much more effective if it didn’t attack another person. It’s an emotional topic but we should assume the best in people we talk to. Maybe they just aren’t aware of everything you are, in which case showing them can be very effective.
You're correct, and usually I try to be extremely measured in how I interact here, avoiding appeals, fallacies and insults.
However, I have an understandably short fuse for anyone with the audacity to not just claim ignorance, but actively put forth a narrative that no genocide is taking place. I've spent too long being nice and understanding to these people.
There is little hope in connecting with them via fair argument, because they only understand appeals to authority (thus my invocation of the ICC and UN), but selectively reject them as well. They reject sound arguments in favor of feelgood statements. It takes that caliber of person to arrogantly proclaim in December, 2024 that there is no genocide.
The most effective option for dealing with this kind of person would actually be to disengage and not respond. However, that opens up the possibility that someone else reads their comment, and when not presented with a counterargument, takes their argument in good faith.
I mean, look at his yet unanswered reply to my statement. How do you even begin to engage fruitfully with something like that? They set up a system of biases and then try to frontrun you by invoking the words "bias" and "projection" before you can use them, engaging in a preemptive tu quoque [0].
You don't even get a chance to attack their core arguments, because they're shielded by a continuously growing pile of weaker arguments, and you'll get lost in a meta-argument about semantics or some other trapdoor.
Sometimes ignorant people are just ignorant, and they need to hear it. But I do generally agree with you, and thanks for the criticism!
The best thing to do is absolutely to disengage from your extremely toxic and ignorant style of communication. You have no intention of having a fair discussion or establishing any common ground. You came into my thread looking to start shit, not to consider and share new ideas.
Your arguments are steeped in bias, conservative talking points, and after reviewing your comment history, I just see a cesspool of ignorant, bigoted takes and projection.
I've already argued against your talking points a thousand times with others who share your exact same spoonfed worldview. There is no need to do it again.
Hacker News is not the place for this kind of behavior, and I hope one day you lose some ego and grow up.
