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For example, it’s widely reported that organ transplantation, especially heart transplants, may cause personality changes associated with the donor.

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-3943/5/1/2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31739081/




Do we think the personality changes are due to the heart itself, or just due the minor brain damage accompanying an incredibly invasive surgery?


General anesthesia is not good for the brain.


replying to myself to provide more context.

In my PhD work, I helped conduct the human portion of a study on this topic, contributing to some discussions at the FDA [1]. The idea was a bit controversial then, and I've had a few anesthesiologists get mad at me for it, but the general pattern has now been replicated quite a few times now, such that the field has largely moved on from 'Is something bad happening?' to 'Why does it happen, and how do we prevent that bad thing from happening?'[2]. So it has been a gratifying excursion from my typical research before and since then.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4168665/

[2] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9750936/


Thanks. This is purely anecdotal, but we had a family member whose child was under anesthesia for a severe respiratory infection. He’s been severely developmentally delayed in his first year, and it’s unclear to us what damage done.


Thanks for sharing. It is difficult to know for certain. If the respiratory infection led to hypoxic damage, then that could also contribute. I have not kept up with the field, but generally the most sensitive period for anesthesia was before 4 years or so. As I mentioned briefly, most of my work is in different areas of research so I haven't kept up to date.


The two sources you've given are both about general anaesthetic in infancy, though. Are you staying it might extend to adults?


Is there any reason to suspect that adults suffer the same effects as infants? (Not asking to be combative, just curious whether children are uniquely affected because their brains are still cooking.)


You and the other commenter bring up good points. Developmental neurotoxicity (with lesser or no effects in older children and young adults) is, I speculate, probably due to differential gene expression during early development versus later when genes related to development are suppressed and genes related to maintenance are more abundantly expressed. The developmental neurotoxicity probably works through different mechanisms than what is termed "postoperative cognitive dysfunction" in the elderly after general anesthesia dysfunction [1][2], which, all I know is that it is a thing. If I were to speculate it would be that in the elderly there are fewer redundant cognitive resources, and so detrimental effects to cognition are magnified. I know that it used to be thought that post-operative dysfunction is temporary, but it seems likely to me (again speculation) that there is both recovery and permanent dysfunction, but the dysfunction becomes a little more difficult to detect. Going back to my paper, where we used a method to disentangle two types of memory processes i.e. recollection (explicit recollection of experiential details) and familiarity (a general feeling of familiarity with things you've seen previously) which contribute to memory performance but tend to be differentially affected by neurodegeneration (recollection is more affected, and generally more hippocampal), so that sometimes, when not accounting for these processes, a memory test will fail to find differences because patients rely on familiarity to answer memory questions.

[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2020&q=postoperati... [2] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo...


The mass-spaced effect in organ tissues may be one explanation of this: https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2024/novemb...




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