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Figma killed the desktop app. I yearn for the good old days of standardized UI if I actually need to get shit done efficiently. Nowadays it's learning everything from either scratch; maybe if you're lucky, the designer put in some 'intuitive' (read 'fashionable') interactions.



You write like you were born after all the events related to the desktop application had run their curse.

We killed the desktop app, to free ourselves from the Wintel monopoly. We pushed the migration to the Web, because that was the unreachable niche for Microsoft and their monopolistic practices.

We succeeded, and as punishment, now we have to endure all these applications written in Node.js with Electron UIs. We won, but we have paid a high price for it.

In this context, Figma is nothing more than an afterthought. Something that appeared as a consequence, not the cause of anything.


Don't worry, mobile applications, which are basically another nightmare, are slowly eating the web for general purpose/public applications.

And now we have 2 oligopolies instead of 1 monopoly, but in practice it's basically the same thing.


True. Once upon a time, we believed in Google's “Don't be evil.”


The same thing but twice the work !


At least we avoided the Flash hegemony


>to free ourselves from the Wintel monopoly

Now we "enjoy" the Chrome monopoly.


And I may add that even Microsoft themselves killed desktop apps.

I mean, just try creating a GUI app even exclusively for Windows in 2024 : it was their strength in the past, it’s now the same pain as everywhere else.

Even Windows 11 uses multiple intricate UI frameworks from Microsoft, sometimes on the same screen without any UI coherence.


>You write like you were born after all the events related to the desktop application had run their curse.

>We killed the desktop app, to free ourselves from the Wintel monopoly.

Bombastic nonsensical crap!

There is no "we”, period. That is a fallacy that you, not "we", impose upon yourself, and try to generalize it to, or foist it upon, everyone.

"We" didn't kill anything. and "we" were not slaves in the first place, so "we" didn't need to make ourselves free.

Maybe you, and some known to you, were slaves, or still are. Don't generalize vacuously.

This is not the multiple Oscar-winning award-winning Ben-Hur movie or the Biblical story of the ancient Israelites as slaves in Egypt or something like that.

Anyone, who wanted to, or at least, any reasonably large group of people (1), could have moved off, from Windows, if they wanted to, badly enough. In the early years of Windows, DOS was still there, right? And had plenty of good software on it, just not GUI-based. and there were some Unix versions around, including maybe some cheaper ones. I rememember Coherent Unix and ESIX, for example. I actually work on the latter, briefly, in an early job. Microsoft's own Xenix existed around the same time too, plus or minus a year or three, maybe.

(1) Say a few hundred or a few thousand people. As an example, they could have collected donations, and hired 20 to 50 smart computer science students, grad or undergrad, and / or professors and / or operating system developers, to create a better OS without the monopoly and bad practices of MS. You bet your ass, at least some people would have queued up for that.

Set up some rules for correct behaviour, and kick out anybody who did not comply.

>We pushed the migration to the Web, because that was the unreachable niche for Microsoft and their monopolistic practices.

So, your only option is to run away from an enemy? And do you think that the enemy cannot follow you there? What about WSL and Azure and what not? Ha ha. Never underestimate your enemies.

See the Stockdale Paradox. The Jim Collins version is a good one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42153495


The Tk GUI toolkit dates back to 1991.

This style of GUI predates Figma by decades.


Yeah, web dev sucks.




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