> "I have not used Kirby in client work, but I hear only good things."
Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS.
One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 announcing version 3. https://x.com/getkirby
If you don't like Musk, why on Earth would you rattle the cages of your potential customers with such views? It's possible to use Twitter/x in the most minimal way, disable replies, post every blue moon. At least keep the latest version visible. Twitter is essentially an online feed of you business activities. From a potential customer point of view, Twitter is agnostic to "where is your software at" research. Ending your timeline in a principled huff, isn't smart.
Meanwhile, in the article:
> "Statamic.... I think if the cofounder hadn't brazenly endorsed a horrendously damaging politician, I'd have tried it."
All aboard the facepalm express. Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?
What does it mean to "have Twitter"? Browsing the website?
I have never "had Twitter". Only ever browsed it. I did stumble upon the Kirby abandoned profile, and the first thing I thought was "another CMS abandoned"... You see, a lot of CMS applications have been abandoned, as you may know. I'd recommend if your CMS is still going strong, and you're selling licences and making updates, to make sure nowhere on the internet gives the opposite impression. Particularly when it costs nothing to keep those details updated.
More the problem with Kirby is the admin still using Vue 2, so if you use Vue 3 for everything else and want to make a plugin, you have to go back to how you used to write Vue and no longer do.
> Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?
Frankly, yes. Things have become so bad that the more people taking a stand and showing they don't support a party that has no issue with racism, sexism, misogyny and various other kinds of bigotry, the better. Sitting on the sidelines shouldn't be an option for most ethical people based in the US, IMO.
Your reply is exactly the reason to keep politics out of software recommendations. Dialled in hyperbole, frantically listing your grievances about XYZ, isn't the moral high-ground you think it is.
> This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023
I mean, the project has an official website and a public repo on GitHub. I’m not sure why we’re expecting Twitter to be an official update channel. It clearly isn’t anymore.
I mean, someone casually reading about CMS options or related topics on Twitter might see an old mention of Kirby. They click, see no new posts and move on.
Obviously someone with intent to specifically look up Kirby, will go beyond their social media scrolling. I'm talking about the multi-tasking rapid-browsing people who give a seconds of attention to a possible lead. Why risk losing those leads because you "don't agree with XYZ"?
> > "Statamic.... I think if the cofounder hadn't brazenly endorsed a horrendously damaging politician, I'd have tried it."
> All aboard the facepalm express. Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?
One on hand (the business side and the being-a-professional side), I do agree, on the other hand (ethics ?) I disagree that tech should get a free pass regarding political concerns. Overall, I think this sentence could have been phrased more professionally/politely, 14yo sarcasm is annoying. Something like "I can't recommend Statamic for personal reasons." (I know it's still a political statement but it feels less childish and more personal). I know it's a meta and larger debate and that HN as a whole wants/needs (to maintain its level of discussion) to talk about tech without the political implications or concerns but these concerns are still there, I think hinting at it is okay, making it the whole talk is annoying for everyone. /meta
> All aboard the facepalm express.
That still puts a smile on my face 15 minutes later :D
Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS.
One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 announcing version 3. https://x.com/getkirby
If you don't like Musk, why on Earth would you rattle the cages of your potential customers with such views? It's possible to use Twitter/x in the most minimal way, disable replies, post every blue moon. At least keep the latest version visible. Twitter is essentially an online feed of you business activities. From a potential customer point of view, Twitter is agnostic to "where is your software at" research. Ending your timeline in a principled huff, isn't smart.
Meanwhile, in the article:
> "Statamic.... I think if the cofounder hadn't brazenly endorsed a horrendously damaging politician, I'd have tried it."
All aboard the facepalm express. Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?