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> What about acknowledging the effects of improper land management (forestry, rivers, etc)?

Those are indeed a factor, and European nations as well as the EU have started programs to counter those 20th century artefacts (see "Renaturation"). But the amount of rainfall itself (measured) was extremely high, by any standard. The mediterranean sea was between 2 and 4 deg C warmer than usual, causing increased evaporation and in turn increased precipitation across Europe. (This has been widely reported)


I think that’s more of a topic for impacts to places like California and the Gulf Coast that have been heavily built up over the past fifty years despite their known issues with fires and hurricanes, vs the places in Europe impacted by these floods that have been occupied for many hundreds of years.

"X% of the variability in flooding explained by climate change, regressions show" probably failed the A/B testing for engagement.

Totally agree, climate change is highlighting the places we messed up but had enough stable weather patterns to hide it.

Lots of areas are getting absolutely flooded around Europe and it's basically because they drainer or changed the water courses, as well as making everything flat and smooth for (over)farming.

And then you get a week of rains and everything goes tits up.


> The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day period was the rainiest ever recorded in central Europe

And having the rainiest four day period in recorded history


Copernicus is the go to tool I believe for the data https://atlas.climate.copernicus.eu/atlas

Having a look at the "Maximum of 1-day precipitation" dataset it is clear that it has increased greatly over the past decades which results - among other things - to flooding


If you are not the lazy one - what are those proper land managements? There were trees falling (not just in the cities) in Slovakia because it rained in one day like in a whole year.

> Do we just blame every "natural" disaster on climate now?

No.

> What about acknowledging the effects of improper land management (forestry, rivers, etc)?

Those are acknowledged, and there needs to be more focus on it.

Was there anything else, or is this just a blatant attempt at spreading doubt about climate change?


My issue is the "it's the climate" narrative takes all the coverage and distracts us from a lot of the low-hanging fruit things we can solve (forest brush, beaver damns in Poland, etc) as well as other environmental issues.

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> The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day period was the rainiest ever recorded in central Europe

Statements like the above are what should give everyone pause.

I think that statement can't be true.

Detailed measurements exists for less than a hundred years - yet the WWA is cock sure this is the highest rainfall ever. It goes to the credibility.


What do you think "ever recorded" means? I'll take a stab: "the most rain we could find credibly recorded in the data we have currently available to us."

If you have other data you should consider sharing it with them.


> They act as if natural disasters never happened before.

https://xkcd.com/1321

> then start using coal to replace the missing energy

s/start/stop/g

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41443347


That's the only way to get funding.



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