On: London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emiss...

[leoedin]

Roads with loads of cars are unpleasant. Yes, the car is a great achievement, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to have quiet streets too.

Ultimately though the ULEZ isn’t even going to affect that. The percentage of cars affected is fairly small and shrinking each year.

[jojobas → leoedin]

ULEZ is straight up "poor people go away".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_kilometre achieved with "environmental" means.

[leoedin → jojobas]

It really isn't. I've got a 13 year old Toyota which is ULEZ compliant. I bought it for £4k in 2020. My previous car - a now scrapped Fiat Panda from 2007, was also ULEZ compliant. I bought that for £900 back in 2015. Obviously car prices have been changed by covid - but there are loads of compliant cheap cars available.

It's also only limiting driving within the city limits. You're free to drive anywhere else. Hardly totalitarian.

[SideburnsOfDoom → leoedin]

Poor people in London typically don't own any cars at all. London's ULEZ only has upsides for them.

[chgs → jojobas]

Except the cheapest cars you see on autotrader are ulez compliant, and the cost of the car is dwarfed by the cost of insurance.