>It could have lasting effects but did it? Only the actual harms matter to me.
Dude come on. I know that you know this is a shit argument, so Im not even going to entertain it.
>So the penalty is vengeance
The "penalty" is not a penalty, its a removal of that person from the rest of society. Like I said, I would be for full reintegration centers. Put that person on LSD/Shroom/MDMA/Ketamine therapy, put him to work, build out reward systems for normal human behavior, and when he has demonstrated that he can hold down a job and resolve conflicts normally, put him back into society.
Dude come on. I know that you know this is a shit argument, so Im not even going to entertain it.
>So the penalty is vengeance
The "penalty" is not a penalty, its a removal of that person from the rest of society. Like I said, I would be for full reintegration centers. Put that person on LSD/Shroom/MDMA/Ketamine therapy, put him to work, build out reward systems for normal human behavior, and when he has demonstrated that he can hold down a job and resolve conflicts normally, put him back into society.