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the developers working with firebase should enforce common-sense document crud restrictions in the rules. that's just how firebase is. everyone knows it.

now, when talking about ARC BROWSER, i am seriously starting to doubt the competence of the team. I mean, if the rules are broken (no tests? no rules whatsoever?), what else is broken with ARC? are we to await a data leak from ARC?

any browser recommendations with proper vertical tabs and basically everything working like it does in ARC?




Did you took a look at the zen browser? It's an arc clone based on Firefox https://zen-browser.app/


I did. It’s like 20 % an Arc clone, and 80 % of UX papercuts. Like, you can’t have ‘add tab’ button on top when the new tab gets added to the bottom. Or that one sidebar button opens a side window to the right of the sidebar, while another below it opens the favorites to the left and moves the whole sidebar from underneath your mouse.

Looks like a minimal effort css restyle of Firefox.


nice. will probably try it in the future.

but the for-some-reason-not-obvious revelation that it's just a product that some team somewhere is working on and the fact that a browser is an important piece of software brought me back to safari (not sure if joke's on me, but in this case I trust apple engineers to do a more thorough job in ensuring my data is secure).


i'm rooting for them to succeed, but if the concern is security, switching your daily driver browser to a brand-new browser that's still in alpha is unfortunately not a good idea.


It's not in Alpha though, they've been around for years and have launched formally.


Try Firefox with Sideberry extension.


Zen and MS Edge have proper vertical tabs.


Brave. Vertical tabs, privacy, everything sync is e2ee (unlike eg. Edge).

Vivaldi may also be worth a look. Similar setup: User-oriented team, vertical tabs, e2ee sync. If you like a thorough browser history, I think Vivaldi keeps a more detailed browsing history than most other Chromium browsers.


Brave is VC funded and needing to extract a billion of value. Just like Arc.




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