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Many families hand devices down. It would be odd for a bachelor to buy every new device every year, but if older devices end up with kids or grandpa it makes perfect sense for the family to buy a new device every year.



Yes, my family practices trickle-down iPhoneconomics. I get the new one every year, because it's a tax thing. I give my old one to my wife, and whichever kid has the oldest phone gets hers.


> because it's a tax thing

How so?


Like this: it’s an excuse to buy the latest phone.

As long as other family members are happy with a steady stream of hand me downs, no harm done I guess.


This makes zero sense. Unless there’s a specific need to replace or upgrade at the tail end, not buying a new phone will continue to work.

This is just a new excuse to get a new phone with extra steps.

If you want a new iPhone, get a new iPhone, just be honest with yourself.


It’s pipelining. Everyone gets a better phone for the price of one.


Phones can be purchased through your company as a perk using pre-tax dollars, as everyone uses their phone for business.


It's still cheaper to not buy a phone. Yes, buying with pre-tax dollars is cheaper than at a store. But not buying one at all is even cheaper.

And business expenses, like a new phone, are usually above the line, meaning you essentially get a discount of your marginal tax rate, you don't just get it for free.


I don't think they meant it like "I have to get the new one for tax reasons", but more like "I get the new one instead of my wife getting the new one, for tax reasons"


Yet if you'd buy normal phones, you'd not be spending a thousand bucks a year but rather something like 4× 300 bucks every 4 years or maybe 4× 500 every 5 years depending on what tier you get (assuming a standard family with 2 parents and 2 kids). Then nobody has hand-me-downs and everyone gets a fun new toy at the same time. You can even pick the model that fits each person's usage best! Some can have a bigger battery, others can have more storage...

Your total expenses are less than half and the average phone age is the same while being adapted to everyone's needs. Each device is about 90% as good as the thousand-buck ones (assuming no one has special requirements, like if you're really into photography then either a camera or a top-of-the-line phone does make sense! Exceptions exist for sure)

Or you tell yourself you can get a discount (omg!) by buying it for business and get yourself a shiny new toy every year :). I know some people that do this indeed


Before I swapped to iPhone I was churning through phones and money at a faster rate. They’re expensive but really do last well


In a family group, at least one person in the hand-me-down chain is going to have a problem with their phone every year, so it makes sense for all the phones to scoot a step down regularly. And yeah, if the person first in line can claim them as a business expense then that’s a good excuse.


But then they have to un-deduct the value of the phone given to family members, especially if it is only a year old.


Yes of course it still costs money and not worth it if you derive zero benefit. But you pay less money, so you expect over many users there will be several for whom its worth upgrading at the lower price but not the higher price.



What tax thing results it being cheaper for you to buy a new iPhone rather than not buy a new iPhone?


They write it off, Jerry.


You don't even know what a write-off is! Do you?


Probably as a business expense it can be deducted from income for the business + no increase in personal income for him. It's not free but is something like a 50% savings vs. paying himself and buying it personally.


You really can’t hand down your business expensed iPhone to a family member.

That’s liable to land you in hot water in an audit.


Unless it's over $2500 it's probably a business expense and not an asset, so the IRS wouldn't care what you did with it later.


Wow! You're right, since 2010 cell phones (and computers under $2500) haven't been listed property.

I stand corrected.


source for this?


my accountant.


I guess he buys it from his business at a (heavily) depreciated price?


Yeah, electronic devices has crazy high depreciation rates.


Gotta write off the wife, too.




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