On: State and time are the same thing

[Bendy]

Yeah, but so what? Time still has meaning, and is important to us, if only because we know we’re going to die.

Some theologians believe time exists also in Heaven. If that’s so it can’t be like any time we know about.

[FrustratedMonky → Bendy]

? Not following. You have heard of relativity? Which has 'Time' as a dimension?

It is some latest physics theories that there isn't a 4th Time dimension, and the universe is moving from one state to the next.

And this programming example was a good illustration.

This is from 2011 https://phys.org/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime-dimension...

Not sure what religion has to do with it.

[Bendy → FrustratedMonky]

Thanks for sharing that. Einstein and Minkowski knew perfectly well that space and time are inseparable over 100 years ago. >Not sure what religion has to do with it. >absolute time is not falsifiable…you have to believe in it.

Either time is a necessary condition for experience, or it’s a measurable object of experience. It can’t be both. You can’t have time in time. Which one do you believe in?

[FrustratedMonky → Bendy]

Are you saying: Lets say a Theory of Everything is found, it explains Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics, Gravity, . Everything is tied together. And, this theory does not have Time. Time is just a side effect we can measure. But, at that point, you would still need some 'belief'? Because it is so far beyond our ability to perceive it maybe?

Or, another way. Even a Theory of Everything, at it's root is just Math, it isn't 'what the universe actually is'. So we'd still need belief?