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I feel like they have struck gold with the Meta Ray-ban glasses. Perfect form factor, looks cool, not obtrusive, has actual features that people want to use. That IMO is the future of wearables + AR/VR + AI, not a bulky headset.



The same thing happened with previous technologies. Steve Jobs didn't "invent the smartphone" -- he just made a smartphone at the time when the underlying tech (VLSI, displays, WLAN, WWAN) got to the point where it could fit in a pocket and have battery life of a day. Similarly he didn't invent the MP3 player. He made one at the point when Toshiba were able to manufacture a very small, low power hard drive that meant you could get more than 10 songs on one.


Steve Jobs and invention is always sort of looking at the problem backwards.

He could enunciate a concept and knew when to put the boot down to enforce his taste.


Every company knows this, the problem is that you can’t fit the compute you need for AR/VR + AI into a form factor like this, at least not right now.


Why can't the glasses be dumb displays streamed to by my phone?


Because then you don't get to break the Android/Apple duopoly


I don't think you'll ever be able to. Maybe not for decades for AR/VR. The AI stuff is cool; you can offload that, but mostly they'll just be a glorified camera mount and headphones for the actual 'glasses.'


Your comment won't age well.


Guess we'll see in a few decades.

People thought VR was on the brink of mass market breakthrough in the 90s too.


Intels next gen iGPU has has similar benchmarks to a 3080. Compute is still scaling incredibly quickly. I think the optical problem will end up taking much longer than compute.


You already can in something the size of an old cassette walkman, run an extra flexible USB c cable to the glasses or something and problem solved


(phones are an obvious choice but I suspect you could jam significantly more power into the same form factor if you didn't need screen, speakers, mobile modem etc)


The offloading is easy, I don't think the optical aspects of breakthrough VR/AR will be overcome for quite a while.


But the Ray-bans aren't AR or VR. They're just glasses with a camera, microphone, and speakers plus connectivity for streaming the camera's feed. How is that AR or VR in any way?


If I'm going about my day and a voice in my ear gives me context about my surroundings, identifies people and objects, answers questions, tells me which direction I need to walk in, records and live streams my POV and more, that's AR. The experience doesn't always have to be visual.


That’s a phone. You are describing a smartphone. Does this make all phones “AR” devices?


This you? https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/36/71/61/1000_F_136716109_nK...

Glasses are a fundamentally different UX than a smartphone.


Put your phone in a shirt pocket, its camera visible. Add headphones (wired or bluetooth). Done.

The question remains: Does an audio-only interface qualify as “AR”?


Yes! The true magic of AR is a computer understanding the user's real wolrd context. The UX modality is secondary.


There was an app over a decade ago called Layar that used the camera, screen, and GPS for AR.


Also for VR there's, of course, https://arvr.google.com/cardboard/

Imo whether you overlay an image on your eyes or if they just do binocular camera passthrough, they could both count for VR. It's just most phones can't do binocular passthrough due to the lack of appropriately spaced cameras.

This is relevant for stuff like the f35 where you can look "through" the jet


“That’s AR”

That’s funny, because when I look up AR, that’s not at all what I see and it’s certainly not what anybody I know expects from AR.

“a technology that superimposes a computer-generated image on a user's view of the real world, thus providing a composite view.”


They're not AR or VR, they're an open air experiment to determine what the display-bearing devices will be.


They're working from both ends. VR/Passthrough content on a device with a screen and then the ideal form factor on the Raybans. The goal is to merge them. Its still TBD on when and if that's possible.


Have you seen the snap glasses. Meta glasses aint goin anywhere


Pretty sure the Meta glasses routinely sell out and the Spectacles had a hard time selling. Maybe they both sell them at a loss, who knows


I would buy this today if it filmed horizontal video.




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