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I don't know, I love the northern flora, too, Rattlesnake master, moline, dogwood, black-eyed susan, blazing star, echinacea (purple coneflower) and so many more.

More importantly, humans need water.




I think emotional attachment does form to what is familiar within our lifetimes.

But what is a more typical "dream" desire by the average human? To retire in a northern forest, or to retire on a tropical island? Where do people typically vacation, when the surroundings and how they feel are the primary focus? Do the very wealthy, who can do whatever they like, usually spend more time in the woods or in the tropics? Did Ellison and Zuckerberg buy large swaths of temperate forest? Etc.


Maybe. I grew up in the Southwest.

Ellison and Zuckerberg have very different values than I have.

Getting out of the Southwest and coming to the Midwest (school) and staying for a while before spending 18 years in Canada was a joy.

I found the people to be less religious, less racist, surprisingly in to locally sourced food and nature conservation.

I'm certainly not poor, but most wealthy people I know are, well, not really someone I would want to spend a lot of time with or emulate.


I am only using very wealthy people as a reference because I think they are a good proxy for hedonistic values, which I believe are rooted in human instinct and what worked in the ancestral environment.

You can’t delete these instincts, you can only bury them.


I'm not arguing, but again, nuance. I don't know that it is human instinct, my understanding is that diseases like malaria and the heat (no A/C) meant European colonizers avoided a lot of the warmer places and moved inland to the mountains where it was cooler.

It might, instead, be a cultural influence?

I feel like I am being pedantic, though. Apologies for that.




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