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Gaia-X is a distraction which should be abandoned (berthub.eu)
49 points by ahubert 4 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments



I was part of a EU commission project once to define a metadata standard for sharing of cultural assets. It consisted of developers and managers for many different companies that were active in the cultural sector.

The end result was an abomination, in which every company fought to have a little bit of their tech included in the final specification.

I can't imagine Gaia-X being any different. To be honest, most members are probably in it for the same reason we were - free money.


Direct democracy with prediction markets would solve this because an idiot who votes for a project that fails would lose voting power, minimizing the issue.


appreciate the post but... is this a problem? i'm a euro software dev and i've never even heard of gaia-x

if this gaia-x thing dies (or not), organizations in europe will carry on using AWS, Azure etc without noticing or caring, no?


Yes and no. While it doesn't change anything if you're on AWS/Azure/GCP and other providers, this basically sink funds from institutions to private companies who have no interest in actually delivering a working cloud provider.

There are existing providers in Europe who have small clouds with less services and integrations, and sometimes not the same performance or reliability as well (such as Scaleway, OVH, Hetzner, ...) who could use those funds to improve their offering and provide a realistic alternative to foreign cloud providers.

This does not prevent companies from building sovereign cloud, but it cuts public funding where it's the most needed.

There is IPCEI CIS which aims at actually helping building a cloud provider rather than standards but I don't know much about it.


I work in the hosting industry (euro) and most people I know never heard or care about this project.

Nextcloud CEO Frank Karlitschek well summarized it:

“I don't think Gaia-X has a future. It's basically a paper monster that will exist but will not have any impact in the market, unfortunately."

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2024/01/08/gaiax_future/


Well the problem is that policy makers and large industrial companies HAVE heard of it, and think it is "what is happening in Europe". And they should stop thinking that, hence this article.


Interesting. So it seems that Gaia-X is a process that defines how to talk about discussing things that could be done without defining what those things could actually be or do. It is a meta-meta level. Hmmm... Let's discuss how to discuss things...




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