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Sorry, why the downvotes? Is something here factually incorrect? Didn't AT&T just 'lose' private data from "almost all customers"? The only truly private option is keeping your data on-prem.



Agree completely, and the only times I've used IP cameras, they were separated from the main LAN, had no access from outside, and provided a stream to a NAS running NVR software.

That said, I can see the average user having a better outcome by "outsourcing their security" to Google, Amazon, and the like. Not ideal for exactly the reasons you stated, but seeing as very few people are going to set up or maintain an on-premises solution, I think the odds are still better than "random Chinese IP camera running a web server and viewable via a janky phone app outside the LAN".

The move to doing everything on phones has only made it worse. At least when you were expected to log in via a "proper" browser for initial setup, you could be prompted to set a new password, update firmware, or make changes to settings. The phone-centric ones I've seen are basically "plug in, scan QR/type serial/connect to temporary AP, (confusing techie stuff happens magically here), now you can watch your dog on your iphone from anywhere!"

Ignore the part about how this actually happens and how anyone can just scan port 8000 or whatever and connect with the hidden root login.




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