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I’m sure we can come up with national security reasons to hire convicted felons with their own lobbyists and captured administrators.



The convicted felon in the White House next year will make sure his fellow felons get what they want.


Let's hope not.


If such a convicted felon were to pardon themselves, would they be a convicted felon any more?


Yes. Pardons are clemency - they don't overturn the conviction, it just means the person doesn't receive any punishment.


Interesting. Would such a person be able to change the rules so presidential pardons entirely void whatever they're pardoning?


The president has the power to pardon; he does not have the power to overturn a conviction. That would require a constitutional amendment.

The British parliament has recently done exactly that in the wake of the Horizon scandal - the convictions have been deleted and considered to have never happened.


Thanks. Am just trying to think through how a potential dodgy president could manage to get themselves cleared of things like that. ;)


The president can only pardon federal crimes.


I don’t think he needs to.

they will appeal based on the insanely broad immunity ruling and get the conviction overturned on procedural loophole created by the ruling - no evidence from his presidency even for unofficial acts and justice department will not retry a sitting president.

He is likely to get the convictions even in the caroll defamation case for the same reason.

Only the fraudulent valuation case is likely survive this Supreme Court ruling.


His conviction was based on criminal acts entirely when he was not president.


No this is a common misconception.

He was convicted for falsifying business records nothing else. All the records that were fraudulently submitted were starting Jan 2017.

The hush money payment wasn't illegal, hiding it was.

It rose to a felony instead of misdemeanor because it was done in service another crime which is campaign finance violation, the other crime need not be proven and he was not charged with that.

All they got him for paying cohen illegally.

Also there was some evidence introduced from his time as president , he would argue that evidence is now inadmissible and in a favourable court they will declare mistrial and ask the lower court to do it again.

If he wins again the prosecution will have to pause and he gets the delay he wants.




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