shrug That's not too much different than "It sure seems like I spent a long time thinking about how to not think about how to build and deploy my app". Put think time in now, so that you don't have to spend it later (or every day)
A good point and one that I've also made further down. Spend it initially so you don't have to spend it later. Can't explain how much time it's saved me over the years.
I too couldn't help but notice that she spent an awful lot of timing thinking through her fashion to be "liberated" from "taking up too much time and energy" deciding what to wear.
It's an up-front investment in time that pays off over the long run. I do it all the time in programming, pick the right API's and abstractions ahead of time (spend a good amount of energy and time) so I don't have to spend as much time and energy later. Eventually it pays off--a lot. If you think how you dress doesn't affect how people treat you in the world, you're terribly mistaken. Even more if you are a woman.
I thought the same, then saw each entry has 'fancy subs', so she would swap the hoodie for a cardigan and a classier t-shirt for the band one (unless, of course, it's one for The Departed)
It seems like she still has quite a lot of clothes to own.
A story from growing up: a friend and I were about to play strip poker with his second cousin. Not wanting to lose too bad, we both put on everything we possibly could, including gloves and even paper face masks (being nervous young teens, we kinda missed the point of strip poker was to lose). In total we were each able to bring our total number of losable items before nakedness to 18. Fronting up to the cousin, she laughed and counted out her clothes - her everyday clothing totalled 18 items... even now, I can't remember what they all were, but I remember being gobsmacked at the time. Parents came home before that story went any further, though.
FWIW, I don't actually have those subs. I just included them because I figured other people wouldn't wear a hoodie to a funeral (for example). I would.
I recently helped a female friend move out of an old apartment, and I was absolutely astounded by how much clothing she had lying around. It surprised me because she came off as a stylish, but not terribly fashion-centered person. By my rough estimate, this list represented probably 1/5 of my friend's clothing.
Granted, a sample size of 1 is not terribly informative; however, my gut feeling is that a women's wardrobe will generally be considerably larger than a man's wardrobe.
On an unrelated note, I love hearing about life hacks like these. Reminds you of how much else there is left to optimize.
The author is definitely NOT stylish by any reasonable definition of this word. Hence the difference in the wardrobe size. Things like "ethical" or "green" consumption only make situation worse.
Maybe not 'stylish' in the sense of glamorous high fashion, but certainly 'stylish' in the sense of having put effort into ones own personal style, and consistently dressing that way. So 'stylish' as opposed to slobbish, slovenly, careless, not as opposed to simple, everyday, cheap, downmarket.
Hoodies and band shirts are not stylish and never will be.
...unless you mean to say something like: in the style of a young urbanite.
The word 'stylish' in terms of fashion refers to more than just clothing though, it's meaning is closer to 'swagger' and it has connotations to 'classical style' or 'classy', which is where band shirts and hoodies fall out.
I've changed my sex. I used to be male, now I'm female.
My wardrobe used to be "a collection of t-shirts and 4-5 pairs of jeans". Now it's a whole closet full of blouses, dresses, and skirts, plus a dresser with a few more things. I recently did a purge and got the stuff down in my closet to 100 individual pieces.
Very interesting. Why do you think your wardrobe grew so much after you switched to female? Do you think that you grew your wardrobe to better fit the image of a female in the eyes of others, or was it a natural impulse that came from within?
Edit: Probably the root of my question would be does a transexual person like yourself truly feel female? And if you do does the feeling of being female precede or follow the switch? As you said your wardrobe was smaller before you switched to female. It would be very interesting if it had grown before the switch and then you made the switch. Fundamentally I ask these questions because I want to understand at least a little about what transexual life must feel like because I can not imagine it personally.
Trans 101: Imagine one morning you wake up and you're a woman - but you're still thinking like a man. Everything about your body feels wrong, everything about how you're expected to behave feels wrong. That's it in a nutshell.
Part of the reason my wardrobe grew is that I actually like my body now and want to show it off. Part of it's that women are expected to put more effort into how their clothes coordinate, and generally allowed to dress more flamboyantly.
(There are also lots of nerdy transwomen out there who keep on dressing Geek Casual after the transition. I am not one of them.)
when my friend moved in with her bf, I took over her apt. First time when I went to see the apt, it seemed small. When I moved in though, it wasn't. I realized she had so much stuff, that it made the apt appear smaller when I saw the first time.
Women have lots of stuff - not just clothes, but everything (before someone complains - this is not sexism etc. just simple observation)
I have a few books too. I am not talking about books though - women seem to have many many things, and they also have many units of the same thing. For example, why does anyone need 10 or 20 pairs of shoes? A female friend of mine has 40 (yes, forty) different bags, and she still keeps buying bags. And no, she is not wealthy, and doesn't live in a mansion.
Edit: not complaining or anything. Just genuinely curious :)
Honestly, as a reformed female clothing junkie, I think it grows in part out of being intelligent -- thus easily bored -- and visually inclined. Getting a certificate in GIS and running my own websites helped cure me of interest in both fashion and decor. I can search for new skins for my blogs or twiddle with the font size or whatever instead of rearranging furniture and trying on the same pants with 27 different tops. It is just as mentally satisfying to that part of my brain. But clothes and decor were the only "appropriate" outlets for it when I was a homemaker/living like I was "supposed to" as a woman.
Right. I hesitate to call it "sexism," as there's no adverse discrimination going on, but the double standard here is turned up to 11.
What is described in this article is, basically, the way almost every western man in a casual profession dresses. I wake up in the morning and pull on jeans, a t-shirt, and top it with a long sleeve, sweater or nothing depending on the weather. Yet no one would have any interest in reading a blog post about it.
Are you sure about that? Because I think you can find similar such themed articles in any given mens magazine, and unless the economics of print have changed, such articles require significant amounts of ink and trees to produce, so someone in the audience is interested in it.
Perhaps this article attracted attention because it was well-written and well-produced with a liberal use of attractive graphics...as opposed to the 100% width Times-New-Roman-400-word-paragraph format that many bloggers use. Why were you so quick to jump to sexism?
This is true; a lot of guys dress this way naturally. I'm hoping the difference is that I actually _thought_ about what I wanted to wear every day, rather than just wearing jeans every day. I only know one guy who's consciously done this, and he's a designer, too.
Right. What interested me was the double standard I mentioned (and I should be really clear: I'm not sitting here and being a men's rights whiner about reverse sexism or anything like that, I'm honestly interested). Clearly guys aren't doing this out of instinct, we were taught to do it too. But it happened at an age and in a context where there was no value placed on the decision. It's just "how it's done", like brushing one's teeth.
For women, coming to the same kind of decision is a lifestyle hack. I don't know what to think about that.
Yeah, I wear jeans, sneakers, a tshirt, and an optional hoodie every day and hadn't considered that wearing the same thing every day. I expected this to be more like a uniform.
also, apparently the whole goal of this is so that you don't have to stress about clothing. I don't wear the same thing every day, and reading that blog post was the probably most i've ever thought about clothing in my life.
If you had three pair of well-made leather shoes, you could potentially keep them for decades by not wearing the same shoes on consecutive days and treating the leather every few months.
I'm a fan of low leather boots. Good looking low leather boots can be worn in just about every situation except weddings, and last a hell of a long time. It's rather liberating not having to worry about your shoes before deciding to walk through a soggy looking field or climb up a hill.
I've given the south west some thought, though it seems the north west is in my immediate future. Should definitely be an improvement over the east coast at least.
Nice, so far I've gone 2 years without shopping for clothes. My coworkers have my dress habits practically memorized, gray/blue T-shirts Monday thru Thursday, and a Maroon or white shirt on Friday.
I'm currently at 5 because I had to get some after some of my older ones are starting to fall apart and get holes. Soon i'll probably be back down to 3...
I saw this post and ignored it on first glance. I just assumed it was some guy and as such it's pretty easy, particularly as an engineer. At work picking out the engineers is largely trivial (jeans, tshirt, runners). There are variations (eg SF engineers have more an affectation for, say, checked shirts at present).
As a guy this seems totally fine. Women seem to have it much harder and not really because of men either. Women (generally speaking) are highly critical of other women and much more conscious of their appearance and behaviour because of other women (take women's shoes: the only people who care are other women) so it's interesting for me to hear this "utilitarian" approach from a women's perspective.
I find the comments on jeans interesting. She's right in that there is a lot of variation in women's jeans but this in itself sends an interesting signal.
In the past couple of years there has been a style of skinny leg jeans. By and large these look ridiculous. Below the waist straight leg jeans are basically timeless so right there you have an easy differentiator between those women governed by the fashion of the day and those governed by other considerations (like actually looking good; yes there's a difference between that and being a slave to trends).
Anyway, for wearing the same thing there sure seems to be a lot of clothes on that page.
There is huge variance in t-shirt quality and fit. In my experience, American Apparel tees are the best I've ever found, and I order them 150-200 at a time (in black, of course). I have to lie and say they're for screenprinting, due to some weird requirements Am Appy instituted for their (now pretty restricted) wholesale customers. In bulk and in quantity (free shipping), they are $6/ea stateside. (Retail where I live is €27.)
I firmly believe from experience that no t-shirt looks better than a washed-once American Apparel black T in the right size. It's the closest thing we hackers have to a suit, I think.
By "runners" I assume you mean running shoes? Those aren't all-weather and can't be worn with an actual suit. I've a nice pair of black Doc Martens which shine up wonderfully, and have been treated to be fairly waterproof. They are perfect universal-occasion shoes, and incredibly comfortable.
Have you thought about using one of those fabric softeners designes specifically for black clothing?
My t-shirts last about 3 years. Business-presentable up to a year or so ... that's hundreds of washes considering I cycle through most of my t-shirt stack every 1.5 weeks.
After 5 years they're only good enough for the gym, on account of the fabric becoming weird. The colour is still mostly fine.
Also, I think you're doing something seriously wrong when washing your t-shirts ... you are doing cold washes right? Nothing above 40C and all that ... also, is your washing machine filled with sand or something?
The whole mess of them fit into one of those plastic 22-gallon (ca 80L) storage tubs.
They are business-presentable for 3-4 washes, and around-the-house for another 4 or 5 after that.
A big part of it is that I live somewhere with exceptionally hard water for a major city (Berlin), so they tend to develop the characteristic white edge thing that happens to black clothing more quickly than "normal" (for other locales).
I figure my latest batch will last me ~3 years?
Buying them in big batches is a huge time and money saver, even if I just tossed them after 3 washes.
Have you checked to see what treating your water would cost? Chemical water softeners are relatively cheap. This one[1] costs roughly $0.30 per load of laundry. If it doubled the wash lifetime of your shirts you're throwing away a ton of money by not doing it.
I've tried it. It's a combination of hard water causing greying and the fact that the hems on the t-shirts (usually the collars) end up curling after 7 or 8 washes. It's not a 100% gain, maybe 20-50% for substantial additional hassle.
T-shirts cost me ~$400/year presently. I live on a 4th floor walkup, my washer is on my second floor (yet another floor up), chemical water softeners are heavy, and shirts simply don't cost enough to jump through hoops of buying, carrying, and stocking another heavy supply fluid (already doing that for detergent and fabric softener).
I try not to add significant inconvenience to my life for things that will save me under $1000/year.
To put it in perspective, I spend more on bottled water than I do clothing.
my personal preference - Hanes Beefy-T, black, there is none better; much thicker T than American Apparel; started printing t-shirts in high school (20+ years ago) been wearing them ever since.
They retail from AA in the US for $18 each, but are available from limited wholesalers for $6 in quantity with free shipping, presuming you convince them that you're a screenprinter and won't be selling them unmodified.
200 of them is only $1200 that way, and it'll last me 3-4 years easily.
"Women seem to have it much harder…" -- as a woman who has totally opted out of this, I can tell you that women make it much harder… on themselves. Not even on each other, not unless you're hanging out with the wrong people.
I think of this as the "Boohoo, societal beauty standards are brutal, please pass the Cosmo" conundrum.
Her essay was a fun read and I loved her pixel art. But I think my wardrobe is less complicated than hers and it would never occur to me to write about it. I rather think she's romanticized a completely normal and unremarkable way of living… the CPU quote as a sign.
FWIW, nobody's commented on or criticized my clothing choices since an ex's mother, nearly 7 years ago, bought me fancy button-up shirts without asking, but I think she just thought I dressed the way I did because I was poor. Ha. :)
I feel like a creep digging through her flickr to find a picture, but I honestly was just curious about the clothes. This one seems most like what was described in the post.
I've been wearing a shirt and tie since I was 18. The only t-shirts I own are the oversized ones I pick up on random occasions (get them as a bonus when buying something for example) and I only ever sleep in them.
This isn't to say I wear the same shirt an tie. Obviously I own dozens but the point is when I dress in the morning all I have to do is:
- grab any socks and pants,
- grab any shirt, trousers and jacket (they are all toned down and guaranteed not to clash),
- and now (the ONLY time I exert my half-asleep brain) pick a tie that isn't too offensive
You are dressed for any occasion, regardless how (in)formal. Never need to think about what to wear, don't need to own different clothes for different occasions, never need to buy new clothes simply because of fashion changes - shirt and tie has been around for decades and is likely to stay until well after I'm dead. The only time I buy new clothes is when I retire old ones due to wear and tear.
Served me well all my life. Never felt overdressed and my friends forgive me if I ever am but the point is that perfect strangers will react positively and are more likely to treat you well and trust you.
Don't you ever get too hot and sweaty wearing a shirt and tie all the time? Do you still wear a shirt and tie to very casual occasions, like a baseball game or a night in playing video games?
I'm being perfectly honest here - I don't own other clothes. This way I can fit all of them in a tiny closet and it makes life easier when moving.
We don't do baseball in the UK but I get your meaning. You can always take the tie off - instant casual. With the local climate there's little chance of getting too hot but I don't wear a sweatshirt underneath the shirt so all I need to do is take the jacket off and unbutton the collar in case the sun makes an appearance in between the fog and the drizzle.
Actually, I did have a problem once, something mentioned here a couple of times. Riding a bicycle would snag the trouser leg occasionally. Fixed that with a safety pin.
While I agree with you that going the more formal route can actually make this easier (you can dress an outfit down by just ditching the tie), I am going to have to disagree that you can just grab any old socks and pants and have them not clash. :)
The big distinction comes in with the belt and shoes colors. A lot of colors of gray I wouldn't wear with non-black shoes and belts. The socks that I wear also depend on if I'm wearing black/dark gray pants or something more Earth tone.
Certain colors work a lot better together than others. While purple can go with black or dark gray, it really pops with brown.
What I have found is that you can never own too many white collared shirts. You can wear them several times a week and no one will notice. You can wear them with a suit, with dress slacks, with chinos, with jeans, etc. A white collared shirt is always a good decision, except when eating Italian.
All my socks are black or at least dark so I don't have to rifle through them. I'm guessing you're American and by pants you mean trousers but it's a lot funnier to think you don't.
I bow my head in respect of your colour coordination. Myself I can hardly tell colours apart let alone match them. I make sure I don't have any vibrant colours so I don't have to make those choices and just make sure the tie has some common theme with the shirt. When in doubt I pick one of the black ones.
I don't know why Americans decided to go with pants over trousers.
My socks are usually only a few colors, and I never seem to have enough. I think my only real life hacker tip for clothing would be to always have way more socks, underwear and undershirts than you need.
I can usually find pants, a shirt and other accessories. But socks? I'm always scrambling to find some.
Fascinating piece. I am saving a link to both the article and the discussion here, which is also very eye opening for me. I happen to be female and my mother sewed beautifully and shopped sales. I grew up with tons of clothes, much of it custom made just for me and I would stand for fittings. I also studied clothing and at one time I wanted to be an image consultant. But I eventually came to hate shopping for clothes. All the time I spent studying clothes made it possible for me to buy stuff without trying it on. I walk into a store, pull stuff off the rack -- oftentimes the sale rack in fact -- pay and leave. This became a really vital skill while I was getting well. Last year, when I was shrinking so dramatically, I threw out my clothes after one or two wearings. If I couldn't have grabbed clothes for $2 an item off the clearance racks that fit, met dress code, and looked good enough to wear to work at Bigco, I couldn't have made the healing journey I made.
I am currently homeless and currently literally own only (clothes-wise) the jeans, long sleeved T and sandals I am currently wearing. That is not due to being homeless. Instead, it is made possible by being homeless. It is a health choice, rooted in my ongoing efforts to kill the infection that nearly took my life eleven years ago. My relationship to clothing has been complicated and it was when I got over caring so much about how I looked that my background came in handy for flying under the radar socially while living a very strange life. I have had the most fun with clothes in recent years while not being a slave to societal expectations about how women should look/dress.
Anyway, it is something I want to write about but do not know where to start. I am hoping this piece helps me with those plans. So thanks for writing this. I feel like I have a million things to say about it but I want a) to not let my day get eaten by this distraction and b) would rather write it for one of my websites than for discussion here.
This article was actually really confusing. It reminded me of people who spend their time coming up with the "perfect productivity system", a quest which ends up ironically consuming all their time and preventing them from actually getting any real work done. I largely wear the same thing every day too -- I have 5 pairs of jeans, a single pair of shoes, and a bunch of polo shorts that I bought on sale once. Regardless of what I pick, it matches, so there is really no decision at all.
I think it comes from a background of having to decide what to wear to make a statement, something that men don't usually have to do on a daily basis, but is common for a lot of women, especially women in some form of design industry. I guess changing the training of years can be a major mental shift - good luck to her, and it can be thinned out even more as time goes on.
Sometimes I wonder if HN posters like to be argumentative simply for the sake of being argumentative. My exact statement was, "It reminded me of people ...", which this article does in fact remind me of.
That is, there are people who spend much of their time doing "lifehacks" through these sorts of peep-hole optimizations [1], and this clothing strategy feels representative of such actions. I can easily see someone who is already a "lifehacker" adding this to their existing system.
Well, for example she states that she came up with this system to not lose time getting dressed in the morning.
Writing that blog post in itself probably took more than a few hours — to write, review, edit, do the graphics for it, etc. If the initial goal was to spend time not thinking about clothes, that doesn't really feel like an optimal way to reach it.
Good point, though the amount of time I've saved, in the end, has far exceeded any time I spent thinking about it earlier (or writing that post, which was mainly for others that I've talked to before who were curious to hear details).
the blogosphere is full of posts by people who spend the time and trouble to solve a problem once and for all, and then share how they did it. it's sad that the comments here are so patronising.
This approach also seems to include a dependency on being in San Francisco or other places like much of California where weather remains rather constant during the year. A New Yorker wouldn't be wearing a hoodie in July or August or a T-shirt in January.
Adapting my usual wardrobe for colder weather involves a few extra layers.
Base: jeans, black t-shirt, possibly a fleece vest, leather shoes.
Cold weather (~20F or below): beanie, leather jacket (lined), scarf, possibly a heavy sweater depending on the duration of being outside, and gloves. Also athletic tights (more insulation than just plain jeans).
Definitely. I live in Ireland and wear the same clothes year round (in the winter I add a scarf and gloves). Definitely not possible growing up in Atlanta.
Blue jeans, black t-shirt, light jumper (I have about 20 in different colors), and soccer flats. I have a suit which I have to wear about once a year.
My wardrobe follows many of these mechanics - jeans, t-shirt, hoodie. In the winter (I live in Waterloo, Ontario) I just add layers. Sometimes more shirts, sometimes long underwear, and always a jacket, hat, gloves etc. It's usually pretty warm inside, so the core pieces don't change.
I've always wondered why there is so little of talk about what to wear in nerdy crowds, e.g. on HN. Looking at the way people obsess about every single detail about their lives (how to exercise in gym, what music to listen while coding, etc.), there should be way more discussion on this but it's nonexistent.
I think a wearsthis site, similar to usesthis.com, would be quite popular. I'd like to know what shoes Spolsky is wearing, what t-shirts pg prefers, what brand of underwear Drew Houston uses, and, of course, where does Zuck gets his hoodies (they are custom made: http://www.quora.com/Mark-Zuckerberg-1/What-brand-of-hoodie-...).
While coding (and especially when I'm hung up on a problem) every little distraction, even miniscule, distracts me, so I hate wearing shirts, I have to wear t-shirt. I've yet to see t-shirts that are marketed predominantly for coders, say, with a nice quote on them (e.g. ""Metaprogramming is the language feature that helps you write code that you won't be able to understand once the cocaine (or Ritalin) wears off."") and the ASCII table on the back.
I actually want to do something with fashion. Not sure what. I have tried asking around on HN and found it frustrating. This discussion is turning into a goldmine of food for thought (or maybe buffet?).
I came up with this "brilliant" idea for a brainy clothing site called Geek Chic, but the domain was already taken: http://www.geekchic.com/
I am still trying to decide what exactly I want to do (in addition to spouting off on several websites). I have already written a tiny bit about clothes on one of my blogs and I want to do more of that. I think there is room for a kind of brainiac's guerrilla fashion site, so to speak. Thank you for your remarks.
See, the thing is I don't want to be chic, at least not in the sense that word connotes for the majority of people. I want to create/buy/wear clothes that coders would find cool and "chic" (without looking like a total weirdo, of course). If there are so many cool looking skins for my Macbook (e.g. http://www.etsy.com/search_results.php?search_type=all&i...), why can't have the same creative disruption in my clothing?
Oh, that was my exact thought. Sorry if I failed to convey it. I am someone who does social hacking and the amount I have studied things like clothes let's me hack the system. I have a $3 haircut from another homeless person. I get asked by non-homeless types where I got my fabulous haircut. I get asked if it is permed and complimented on the highlighting. There is no perm and it wasn't highlighted.
I have two ASD sons who have a yawning disinterest in things like fashion and who live in shorts and t-shirts. We get told they are "beautiful" young men and asked about their hair, etc. too. So I think I am uniquely qualified to bring guerrilla fashion to folks who do not give a flying fuck about fashion and would take glee in being praised for their t-shirts and hoodies.
My girlfriend has been absolutely in love with these, and I've been getting her damn near every new one they come out with, because they look great and (apparently) are a great fit and good materials.
"When I first started looking for things like a ‘standard tank top’ or a ‘standard jersey skirt’, I thought they’d be easy to find."
I find this to be the case too often. Jeans are easy (Levi 501, anyone?) but finding a t-shirt or collared shirt that fits well, is comfortable and that I will likely be able to buy over and over again for the next 10 years is quite difficult.
GAP and Uniqlo sort of do this but even they change things around a lot. I think sites like Everlane.com could do quite well out of this concept: most people like to stick with basics they love. Make good basics and keep them around forever. I've always wanted to be able to login on my iPhone and click 'give me two new t-shirts' and have them delivered to my door, the iPhone app should know where I live, my card number and my favourite stuff...no questions asked!
As odd as it sounds, I try to model my outfits after CIA officers[1], which depends on the context and environment, but generally involves regular jeans, a normal t-shirt, and a button-down shirt for men. What you'd see at the local Home Depot. It's comfortable, discreet, and durable.
I have a few pairs of jeans, a few pairs of t-shirts, and a few pair of button-down shirts, and a couple pairs of shoes.
I don't call it "wearing the same thing every day" and I still have far less than this person and I never "waste brainpower" on deciding what to wear. Her whole post gave me brain cramps, however.
I appreciate her effort to find a look not subject to the whims of fashion. However, she will have to adapt her look in a few years when the leggings under a skirt look goes out of style. I'm sure she'll adapt, perhaps switching back to tights.
It's also a look that will be difficult to pull off when she's 20 years older. For some reason, women have to dress their age. My guess is because there is so much societal pressure for women to look younger that there is significant backlash when the effort becomes too transparent.
Men have it easy. A well fitted Saville Row cut suit has been relatively fashionable for at least a century. The only thing you'd have had to change would have been the tie, and you would have had to lose the hat about 50 years ago.
Assuming you've got the Saville Row conduit cut back then and worked somewhere conservative (i.e. pretty close to Saville Row). Other than that, there have been a lot of fluctuations in male suit fashion over the years. Sure, it's not as obvious (no sudden harem pants), but one might argue that this makes it harder. Think of the business card scene in American Psycho and apply that to suits. Colors, patterns, shoulders (wide, narrow, built up etc), waist width, vents, pleats, cuffs – then add shirts, ties, suspenders, cuff links…
I agree, a Dr. No-era Bond suit is a timeless style icon, but if the rest of the group is wearing 80s style "power suits", you'd be the odd one out, which in some jobs would not be really good for your career.
Buy a suit that fits your build and it will never look too far out of place. Don't buy exaggerated cuts (like the present too-tight fit with too-short pants). The trendiest items will always be a little different, but they don't vary too far from the middle. You only look silly when you buy clothes too far on one extreme and the trend moves to the other end.
I'm not doing it at all. Jeans, t-shirts, occasionally a simple two-button suit, if required.
But for a lot of management guys, especially in finance, not being "too far out of place" just doesn't cut it. Somewhere you have to be more conservative than the general fashion, somewhere your tie and lapels have to be the proper width of the season. Never mind the often considerate difference between British, Italian and American fashion. We're talking about business fashion, not artist/actor style. (Never mind the preppy side of all those style guides and blogs.)
I'm not arguing about the timeless cuts, I'm a big fan of the toned down British style. And given the audience of this site, it's a good suggestion. Basically the 80/20 solution of menswear.
But it's really not like you've either got timeless fashion or 70s brown checkered suits with bell bottoms.
Seriously. I've worked in places with a relaxed dress code, but no one would be actively hostile towards someone deciding to wear a suit, even with everyone else wearing a t-shirt and jeans.
A hoodie? In my book that is _very_ casual. I would only wear one on a fishing trip or some other private activity where the risk of bumping into work associates is minimal. A cardigan would seem like a better common denominator between dress codes.
Surely the character to cite would be Jeff Goldblum's character in The Fly, who owns a set of identical comfortable, smart casual clothes for exactly the reasons stated by the author and the character in Jurassic Park (presumably the book).
In any event, this is a much tougher problem for women than men, but she isn't really describing "an outfit" but a wardrobe. I don't have a problem with that, but the title is misleading.
Fashion makes a lot more sense when it's treated as a language (and one that women have a multiple-decade head start on versus men in our society). Then this article is less about how the author found a way to think less about fashion and more about how the author is using the language of fashion to communicate something different and interesting about herself. Regardless of the "reasoning" for doing it, that's what's really happening here: she's expressing herself through this medium, in a surprisingly different and interesting way.
I think women don't fully appreciate the uniformity of men's clothes. Her plan is still more variable than most male dress codes like (dress shirt, slacks, leather shoes) or (T-shirt, jeans, sneakers). But I agree that too much choice causes stress. It must be a nice feeling to limit your possibilities and go from a 15-minute decision tree to a nearly instantaneous choice.
This may be just speaking from my own experience, but I think a lot of women do appreciate the uniformity in men's clothing. And frankly, are jealous as hell.
Its much more difficult, IMO, to be a woman and dress simply and look consistently "nice" than it is for a man, who can throw on pants and a polo/dress shirt and look classy.
Ever notice how when a female politician wears an outfit a second time, it results in a great deal of criticism from tabloid media? I male politician could wear the same suit every day, varying the tie (or even keeping that the same) and no one would notice. I always thought that was an insane demand.
We appreciate the uniformity of men's clothes sizes, too. One of the reasons women have to think about clothing and shop for clothing a lot more than men do is that we can't just look at the jeans in our closet, note the size, and walk out of any store with a pair of jeans labelled with that size and expect that they will be wearable. Women's sizes on labels have very little to do with the size of the clothes, even clothes from the same brand/store.
Fashions come and go more in women's clothing, too. My go-to dressup item is a navy blue blazer which is a standard that should be available all the time, right? No, some years standard blazers are out of style and cannot be found.
That's why all the work put in by the OP to find simple, classic styles is mysterious to many men. They can find simple, classic clothes that fit pretty much anywhere. That's a lifehack that's MUCH more difficult for a woman to achieve.
Men don't appreciate the uniformity of male bodies. (basically: skinny, average, athletic (bigger chest), portly (bigger gut) ) For women, there are many more variables, and each vendor cuts clothing differently.
A guy with Timoni's tastes following this strategy would just buy a hoodie, shirts and pants from the Gap. Done. For a girl, having had a kid might mean that Gap skirt doesn't fit anymore. Or the shirt is meant for a bigger/smaller bust, etc.
Vint Cerf usually wears a three piece suit as well. It's a bit of personal branding, plus he just likes wearing them. More importantly, perhaps, the look helped him in the past when dealing with (D)ARPA, military and congressional types, etc., allowing him to propose radical things. He wouldn't have been able to get away with that unless he looked sober, conservative, and respectful.
That must suck on really hot days. Where does this guy live?
Having read this whole thread, y'know what's even better than wearing the same thing every day? Not wearing the same thing every day. I have a bunch of different clothes, and deciding which of 'em to put on really doesn't take that much time out of my day.
I learned the hard way that linen trousers, if they're satin lined, are definitely not comfortable on hot days. Doh.
One thing there's still a dearth of in the marketplace is men's trousers with stretch. I had a pair of gray stretch cotton/spandex (~5%) slacks from Banana Republic 8-10yrs ago that were absolutely perfect for anything, but haven't found much else similar since.
Imho, a simple wardrobe is great but being able to execute on the plan depends wholly on one's lifestyle.
It's not too bad, as long as you own appropriate suits. If you wear a heavy wool suit in August in NYC, you'll be a sweaty mes. If you wear an appropriate summer weight suit, you'll be ok.
I wear tanks and light leggings on really hot days (or in really hot countries). It's cool you don't have a problem deciding what to wear, though. I found myself bogged down with what was the appropriate thing for the right occasion/did stuff match well/did I look really cute or not.
By attempting to be 'unconstrained' from fashion, OP has become more constrained than ever. Is she saving time & money? Maybe...but that blog post and graphics sure took some time to put together.
And now that she's made this public, she's stuck. Want to wear something different, colorful, playful? Fuck it, gotta stick to the schedule.
Clothing isn't time consuming or energy draining. It's about finding a style you're comfortable with, wearing it with confidence, and gently moving in and out of new styles as the times (and your personality) change.
I assure you, if she changes her mind and wants to wear something else, no one will think less of her for not staying true to a blog post she once wrote. Maybe it took her time to put the post together, but that was more about writing something interesting than building a how-to doc for the fashion-casual.
Yeah, I realized I'd get some shit if I ever went out _not_ wearing that outfit in public. It's worth it to write up the process and details anyway. A lot of my friends/peers have been curious about my method.
I just finished a year of living out of a suitcase. I was pretty careful in choosing what clothing to bring, but even still, there were lots of things I barely used.
Minimalism takes time to perfect.
And for those who are wondering: nobody commented on my wardrobe.
Leggings are a great solution for women, but I'm still looking for a non-jeans everyday pair of pants for men. Something stretchy and comfortable, that can be dressed up and that I can ride my bike in.
J.Crew has some great chinos. I like the 484 Slim fit. They fit my body like a glove. Also, this swedish company Velour makes slim fitting chinos as well. I'm a 32x30 but I buy their 30" pants as they are quite stretchy and after a few wears and washes fit almost perfectly. Also, I like the Levi's 510 super skinny jeans, but I get a 34x32 and then have the pants hemmed.
I think I have 12 pairs of pants in active rotation and they should keep me going for a few years.
I like form fitting pants for a number of reasons:
1.) Your cuffs don't stretch out over your shoes and get all mangled by walking on them. Not a good look and it reduces the lifespan of your clothing.
2.) You don't need to roll up your pant legs when biking, as the pants are in no danger of coming in contact with the chains.
3.) They are somewhat revealing and add to sex appeal. Yes, this sort of stuff matter for men as well as women.
Check out Dickies. They have a few different cuts, come in a few colors & are designed to hold up to the abuse of people that do far more physical abuse to their clothes than we do.
I bought about 30 pairs of the same gray socks and 30 pairs of the same black boxer briefs. It's so nice never having to match socks, or worry about running out of them or clean underwear to wear. They're small items, so they don't take up much space.
In regard to pants/shirts, I'm still on a mission to find basic t-shirts that don't get messed up after many washings. I think pima cotton is the way to go for this (currently, I'm buying my shirts from aether. not cheap, but the quality is great). I have about 10 of the same black shirt (and one red, one blue and one white... just to mix it up a bit when I'm feeling "crazy").
Shoes... I have 3 pairs of black high-tops from Tom's. They are comfortable, can pass in dress-up situations, and cover my heels.
Long story short, I don't really think about what I wear anymore or spend anytime going through that mental process in the morning/evening. Some of my friends think I'm a bit weird, but I'm glad I did it!
I bought about 30 pairs of the same gray socks and 30 pairs of the same black boxer briefs.
My kind of man, I know exactly where you're coming from with this. My sock wardrobe is black socks, white socks and that's it. Never understate the importance of taking care to how you are presented, but at the same time I'm not going to drive myself batty just trying to put together a wardrobe that requires maintenance just finding something.
I just buy my clothes in outfits. For each pair of pants there is at least one sweater and at most two that will go with it. I don't try to mix and match to make new combinations on the fly. When I wake up, I think briefly of which sweater I'd like to wear and get the designated matching pants, or I think of which pants I'd like to wear and pick an appropriate sweater from the pre-defined matches. This usually takes less than 30 seconds.
I have to admit though that this scheme has arisen largely from shopping at thrift stores (not that I probably couldn't afford new clothing, but it remains a thrifty habit from a tight-budgeted youth). I enjoy the hunt for an outfit, but when I find one, I don't have the option of just buying 10 because generally the items are one of a kind in the store.
Overall it works for me: interesting clothes, fun finding them, uncomplicated mornings, low budget.
I agree with her not finding good pants to wear ( I know this from my wife). The nice & affordable clothing market is a hard one to crack I think. Women do face a lot of issues with sizing that have nothing to do with looks or vanity. The components for a good fit are universal but women have an especially hard time finding good items. Especially if they bike+work.
The last time I went to the mall I saw way too many cocktail dresses for women but was hard pressed to find active clothing for my wife which looked good. This is a non trivial problem which needs some good brains behind it. No - I don't want to pay for Rapha for some such brand.
First of all, this is a very nice writeup and concept.
Alas, what works for a designer in San Francisco will not work for financial industry in Toronto.
Some have already mentioned the climate aspect. In the finance you just cannot come in every day in the same shirt, tie or suit and (to a lesser extent pants or shoes). If you do, you are sort of signalling that either you do not make a lot or cannot manage your money and either is a red flag. So you can say clothes are a part of professional reputation, just not the one you put on a resume.
I'm also a female, a designer (ux/ui) and I try to spend as little time as possible thinking about my clothing and hair, while still looking like a designer.
The look described here sounds simple, but super casual and perhaps a bit dumpy for a designer. I find that the easiest thing for me is to wear all black clothing that fits well (don't buy it unless you feel great in that shape and material, no compromises). Avoid cotton because it fades and has a gross texture. Done.
Sorry, but consciously imitating Cayce Pollard -- pure hipsterism in literary character form -- is not really not giving a fuck. It's giving a fuck that people think you don't give a fuck, which isn't quite the same thing.
I'm a guy, I'm single, and I live (more or less) alone. This is a domain in which I have some expertise. That said, it really is quite simple not to give a fuck about what you wear:
1) Go to your closet, or armoire, or laundry pile, whatever.
2) Pick out something that fits, doesn't look or smell dirty, and is temperature appropriate.
3) Put it on.
That's it. That's bloody all. I've gotten by like this for the past... ohhhh, six years ago? You've still got this costumery with all these pieces and gewgaws going on. For me it's: shirt, pants, bob's your uncle. I can be up and going in about 20 minutes, including shower.
I really wonder why more women don't do this. It'd be a sign of independence, and it'd shave precious minutes (or hours) off their "getting ready to go to work" time, leaving them more time to... sleep in, or hack, or whatever.
I'm reminded of guitarist Pat Metheny's horizontally-striped shirts. I have albums from him that span decades and he seems to be wearing the same shirt in all of the liner notes.
I've never heard an explanation for this but have always assumed that he's so single-mindedly focused on musicianship that he doesn't want to have to think about getting dressed.
I am yet to have spent $40 on any clothing. Looking for shirts under $10 and jeans/pants/dresses for $20 makes it so much more difficult to have a decent wardrobe.
Although I know some of the pricey stuff is totally worth the money, it's difficult to break the frugal ways inherited from more difficult times.
But I am going to give away my clearance sale wardrobe and start fresh. Like, Timoni, I don't like having excessive stuff around esp. stuff that doesn't get used. So, I am planning a minimalist, functional, cool+classy and fits-all-occasion collection (SMALL!) which will be periodically recycled.
By knowing what looks good (in general and on you), you save yourself a lot of time. After a few odd years back in high school when I cared as a function of being different, I started to realize that I can get dressed in a matter of two minutes just by having the predetermined knowledge of what works. Over 15 years later and it hasn't failed me yet. In the end, I look fine or good enough and I don't waste time choosing or caring too much.
In essence, I suppose I've created a "reminder app" for myself in the sense that I've freed myself of having to think too much about things that should be automated.
Blue dress shirt, white undershirt, jeans, frye boots. If it's winter throw a sweater over it. This blog puts way too much thought into dressing. I've been wearing the same thing for 4 years by accident i guess.
As a guy I am extremely lucky. Jeans, dickies short-sleeve shirt, black socks, magnum boots and a fedora hat and I am set.
It is what I wear day in day out. Sure, I have different colours, black jeans, {dark, light} blue jeans and the dickies shirts come in various colours {red, black, blue, marine blue, navy blue, white, green} but that is pretty much where it ends. Sometimes I'll switch out my fedora for a flat cap.
I own four pairs of jeans, and 8 pairs of dickies shirts, and those dickies shirts have been with me for a VERY long time. My oldest one is now 6 years old and still going strong.
I would call an outfit a group of individual items, having a defined list of items (but having multiple of each) would be (to me) a "style". I guess it achieves the same goal whatever it's called so it's a moot point.
I personally have 1 (North Face) coat, 1 pair of outside jeans and... 160 t-shirts. I guess I would own more jeans if I left my apartment more than twice a month. As a side note I would recommend having so many t-shirts however they take up so much room, I have a 2 bedroom apartment to myself and both wardrobes are full of t-shirts.
This isn't really "the same thing" it's "some things that all fall into the same 3-5 categories."
I got into the habit of wearing the same thing everyday last year, when I was dealing with some pretty serious colorblindness (corrected now, thankfully). I settled on a dark grey shirt, a light blue shirt and black pants.
Not the fanciest of clothing, but I generally don't need it to be all too often.
I haven't diversified now that I can see colors again. This is easy, comfortable, and requires no tought.
Ivan Boesky, the famous investment banker/pawn for Michael Milken was rumored to have had many of the exact same suit so he didn't have to decide what to wear each day.
Steve Jobs and Stanley Kubrick did the same, many identical copies of one outfit. George Lucas may have more variation, but AFAIK limits to flannel shirts and jeans.
I only wear jeans (whatever style of levis fit well, usually 514), casual pants and t-shirts (fitted, solid colors, no prints or brands). I don't like collared shirts or 'business casual' in general. I do like late 70s/early 80's style sneakers, though, so I have a couple pairs of addidas originals, some ponys, gola, etc.
No disrespect intended, but I have lived without a car for over four years and crossed the country (walking through mountains while it was snowing) earlier this year in winter in sandals. My experience: Being healthy enough means you tolerate a wider range of temps and climatic conditions without changing clothes. My sons essentially live in t-shirts, shorts and sandals year round. My oldest has walked to the store in the snow in a t-shirt, shorts and galloshes.
I feel like I understand how those eastern monks walk around in saffron robes in winter in the mountains.
I think I pretty much found myself in the same situation, but without putting any conscious thought into it. I wear combats and t-shirts, every day. I put a jumper on if it's cold. Combats are good because they contain large leg pockets for all of my gizmos.
To each his/her own, but having having and collecting a variety of nice clothes can be enjoyable. Especially now, since quality clothes – by historical standards – are incredibly cheap.
oh man I could never dress like that. I like VARIETY. And when it's warm enough I like to show off my body - I've spent a lot of time and effort getting it into shape.
I certainly agree with this outlook. I've been wearing nothing but blue jeans and plain white t-shirts lately, and it definitely has taken a lot off my mind.
Stupid...for the last 15 years I've worn a black tshirt and pair of jeans every day....every 6 months or so I replace the tshirts and buy a new pair of jeans...
My wardrobe is an analogy to the color palettes I have used or would use in a Web Design.
Everything I wear could, in principle, be used as a model for a web design. This thought was the basis of "Getting Dressed Grid System" which ultimately failed.
I disagree with any "essential" justification for wardrobe. Attire, like anything else, is a tool for expression. Minimalism has its drawbacks, and will be perceived as such in the scheme of other dress styles.
I typically shop at thrift stores or what have you. I am generally "freegan" about clothing, as _anything_ could potentially be used for a design. In similar fashion, we look at font libraries as "bones to pick" for Web design. I believe it is a fruitful intellectual endeavor to view clothes in the same way. Anything might become an article of clothing, even garbage on the street.
I believe establishing a coherent image (like a brand) for one's self through "found clothing" is a better way to go. It makes clothing one's self, like preparing many vegetarian and vegan dishes, more like an activity of story telling: harmony (of ingredients; of colors), consistency (of taste; of themes which identify one's personality), robustness (of flavor; unconventionality of style [which indicates range of experience with fashion]).
I think I made it to age 30 without ever owning 3 pairs of pants at one time.