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Chrome manifest v3 feels like Google bundled a browser with spyware. Safari feels like they bundled a browser with an operating system.



Sure would be funny if those operating systems were spyware too. But definitely not. Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Yahoo, Microsoft, AOL And Apple all care about our privacy too much: https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/06/google-facebook-apple-deny...


The claim there was never about the OS being spyware though so that link feels like a stretch even then.

It’s always been about server and infrastructure access. But beyond that, the Prism leaks mostly applied to telecoms.

A lot of conspiracy minded folks failed to see the forest for the trees because they failed to grok the entire infrastructure between the device in their homes and the greater world.

It’s much easier to think the device in your hand is betraying oneself than to think about the immense number of other components like telecoms, servers, MitM etc that comprise modern communication.


Well duh. Apple admits as much in China, of course they do that in the US too: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

But those are parlor tricks. Yes, the United States forces Apple and Microsoft to turn over data on a regular basis; everyone from India to Brazil demands the same thing. It's non-unique. The United States and it's FIVE-EYES partners clearly have more capabilities on the table; they literally control these businesses, up to a certain point. If you're unwilling to acquit telecoms and server providers for installing backdoors, then it's a no-brainer to implicate Microsoft, Google and Apple for knowledgeably shipping compromised client software too.




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