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[thenthenthen]

Google never left China, they literally just moved to a new building on the other side of the road (in Zhongguancun, Beijing). They even “left a couple of boxes there”[1].

[1] Blum, Andrew, Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet. New York, Ecco, 2012. https://archive.org/details/unset0000unse_p9b6

[ApolloFortyNine → thenthenthen]

You can't even install the play store in China... Google hasn't been accessible there since in 15 years.

You can buy an iPhone there today, and Apple has agreements with China to hand over user data and has done so in the past.

[jhugo → ApolloFortyNine]

> You can't even install the play store in China... Google hasn't been accessible there since in 15 years.

You and GP are both correct. Most Google services are not accessible in China but Google the company still has a significant presence there.

[thenthenthen → ApolloFortyNine]

Apple has a datacenter in Gui’an New Area, Guiyang, Guizhou, China (run by GCBD[1]).

[1] https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/gcbd...

[SR2Z → thenthenthen]

Google in China is virtually a different company than the US - laptops and desktops issued by Google in the US will automatically erase their disks if they detect they're in one of a few countries (Iran, China, Russia, NK, etc.) and there is an entirely separate flow for workers there since GMail and the corporate intranet are inaccessible.