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Are you talking about lost Amazon tribes? Most places I have visited people have seen real quality of life improvements by having clean water, refrigeration, sewage systems and access to the internet.



thank you for reminding me why I don't comment on Hacker News much.

1. Completely misrepresent someone else's perspective

2. Always use an industrialized western perspective as a synonym for what is unequivocally good, without any inspection or consideration. Disregard anything else.

3. Worship at the altar of the information technology industry


> Always use an industrialized western perspective

Who do you think has driven modern medicine and how do you get advanced healthcare without industrialization?


This is a good point. And, most of those require civil engineers to accomplish. It's very hard to do that if you don't have a writing system, and, hence, literacy. Pre-literate societies struggle to build up scientific and mathematical knowledge because all knowledge transfer is oral.


Industrialization is like the 1800s-1900s. Not "pre-literacy".


Yeah yeah, but it’s so romantic that they use bamboo sticks for hunting and killing each other with poisoned arrows while dying of worm infections and shit


b-b-but ... 2000 lb bombs, ar-15s, drones, guided missiles, f-15s, heavy artillery are more romantic!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-15_Eagle

next up, a total lovefest, icbms firing thermonuclear bombs?


Civilization, I'll stay right here


Call Gandhi.

google Gandhi Western civilization good idea




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