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Yes please! "Natural" peanut butter tastes better, but the stirring is IMO not worth it. If the jars were designed better, ie with more empty space at the top above the PB, it would be acceptable. Instead they are designed in such a way that it initially A: Makes you feel like you are bad at it and should try harder and practice, then B: Realize that that this is like those plastic clamshell packaging on some consumer goods: There is no right way to do it; it's a hostile design.



I think if they took your advice, people would complain that they were selling misleadingly empty jars (even if they correctly specified the amount you were getting on the label).


This seems likely. I wonder if explaining it through the packaging, e.g. coloured stripe marked "stir space" and an explanation on the back saying don't worry you are only paying per gram of peanut butter...


Except that the larger packaging size is not totally free - makes shipping more expensive and less units per shelf space. Not sure by how much. I bet peanut butter margins aren’t great.


The top part of a plastic jar could be expandable/collapsible maybe. Thinking of something similar to the bendy bit in a plastic straw.


That (the designing & manufacturing, anyway) sounds like it would be even more expensive than simply shipping larger jars with empty space at the top.


I've seen some powdered dish detergent boxes do this.


I stir once when I get home from the grocery store then place it in my fridge upside down.

The peanut oil congeals and then you have perfectly mixed smooth pb on demand.


For years we stored Adams natural peanut butter at room temperature with no ill effects. A large jar usually lasts less than a month. Then one day I noticed it says refrigerate after opening on the label. I wonder if that is the reason why, or if it's really prone to spoilage.


The fridge addresses the issue of the post: oil separation; more so than spoilage.

I wish I had the discipline to keep a jar of peanut butter around long enough for it to spoil. :)

Growing up we put the peanut butter in the pantry without separation issues because my parents were either fine with or oblivious to the stabilizing additives in the mass produced peanut butter brands.

Now, when I look at the ingredients list I only want to see “peanuts”! (And maybe <1% salt)


I would guess it’s because it will just last longer in the fridge, so they’re recommending it be refrigerated. I have lots of stuff that say the same that do fine in a cool, dark pantry. Though I’m sure if I left it long enough it would spoil sooner than in the fridge.


It will spoil/go rancid. Even the 'non-natural' big brands like Jif/Skippy taste and smell 'off' if they sit out for a few weeks after being opened.

There's no winning here, because putting it in the fridge makes it hard to spread. The best approach is to take out a week's worth or so and put it in a small/airtight container. Leave that out but put the main jar in the fridge.


I've been buying 100% peanut butter for years, never stored it in a fridge and never had it go bad. Maybe your room temperature is higher? It's strange as with a single ingredient product I would expect we would have the same results...

The separation and mixing is a pain though. Love the mixer idea!


Same here. Never even thought of the fridge or what cold peanut butter would be like. I just can’t imagine it and have never needed to. Weird. In other contexts too I’ve never experienced it. Work breakfasts, hotels, I really can’t ever recall fridge temperature peanut butter. Not to mention the size pots we buy would be annoying.


Same here. I don't even go through it that fast -- it takes me three months or so to get through a jar.

Refrigerated peanut butter sounds like an unnecessary hardship.


I would guess it's more to do with humidity than temperature. A drier climate should inhibit rancidification. A wetter one should accelerate it.


My solution is to have 3 kids. Peanut butter has no chance of spoiling around here, we go through it like it’s going out of fashion! On a more serious note perhaps simply buy a smaller jar if it spoils before you eat it all.


My kids don't like peanut butter. How does a kid not like peanut butter?


My kid doesnt like bread. She will eat PBJ ritz crackers all day but will not touch bread. Sometimes eats my grilled cheese sandwiches but that is it.

Loves cake tho. Little debbie snack cakes, pancakes, waffles, cup cakes.

But not donuts, bread, croissants or thick pizza.


Is the common factor yeast?


Ha! Never considered that. Thanks. I will investigate.


And try different bread varieties. I adore bread and always have -- but there are certain grains and styles that I very strongly dislike.


We sometimes use one of these with dairy butter though I'm not sure how well it would work with peanut butter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_butter_dish


Funny I’ve been leaving it out in the pantry for years. It just switched to the fridge only because I find it too runny at room temp. My son dribbles it everywhere trying to make pb&js.


Except that

1. Cold peanut butter is a misery.

2. Removing the lid after it's been upside down is an oily mess.


1. Is cold peanut butter a misery? I grew up in a cupboard pb home, and I enjoy fridge pb as much as cupboard pb. What temperature do you keep your fridge at?

2. Storing upside down is a precaution against oily messes because the oils separate on top of the peanut solids, and so is under the peanut solids when upside down. Also, I mentioned that at the fridge temperatures the oil congeals, and so remains mixed when refrigerated, avoiding any oily mess.


What do you use your peanut butter for? Baking?

I primarily put peanut butter on toast. Cold peanut butter will tear apart a piece of toast (and also make it into cold bread).


De gustibus non est disputandum


Truth.

To that point my favorite peanut butter is hot melted peanut butter warmed by being spread over recently toasted bread.


I discovered that it's much easier to dip apples slices in peanut butter if I nuke the peanut butter for 30 seconds. Now I don't get frustrated by my apples breaking off in my peanut butter.


The lid is messy. I tried this once; never again.

I stir it with a mixer (I have these corkscrew-like attachments for my hand mixer that are perfect). Then put it in the freezer.

It gets bounced between fridge and freezer: when it's showing a little hard, it goes into the fridge. When it softens there, back to the freezer.


Why upside down?


Likely unnecessary cope.

When in a cupboard the oil separates on top, so it can make mixing more difficult by both having the oil spill out when stirring and having the driest peanut bits stuck deep at the bottom.

Upside down places the oil underneath and the driest parts more accessibly near the removable part of the container.

I always imagined after stirring and placing it in the fridge upside down provides that “last mile” guarantee until it gets to temp in the fridge.

After the first use it goes back in the fridge right side up.


> ie with more empty space at the top above the PB

They do all have this once you have the customary first big spoonful when you bring the jar home.


I get these big 1kg tubs of the pure peanut butter on Amazon, the advantage is they’re perfectly cylindrical, so it’s easy to just give a good mix with a butter knife before spreading


Amazon marketplace has a 35lb bucket . Can you imagine? Id need a soft serve style dispenser. Thatd be so great.


I have such a hard time relating to this. Do I just have an efficient stirring method?


I think you must! I once related to this but I decided to try and figure out a better way and I started using a knife instead of a spoon and had success.


Oh, yeah -- if people are trying to use a spoon to stir PB, they've got the wrong tool for sure.




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