unsurprising. this has been a major reason the Republican house speaker is looking at a recall (yet again.) hardliners are upset the FISA regulations havent been renewed to their liking, and Mike Johnson (current speaker) would likely shore up his chances of making it at least 200 days as speaker if he passed this.
getting moderate or traditional conservatives (let alone democrats or independents) to sign this is another matter entirely. FISA has become a babadook policy the US government would just as soon slowly forget about and expire, similar to GITMO and the more acerbic policies of the Bush administration during the WoT. these types of regulations enjoy pretty unilateral disapproval because they have the potential to bite the hand that feeds.
from what I've seen its the traditional democrats and republicans who are in favor, with the leftists opposed on human rights grounds and the hardcore trumpers opposed due to their grudge against the FBI
They're called neocons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism), just one wing of U.S. conservatism and honestly plenty of modern Democrats could be described in this camp as well.
I think our government (USA), whether full of political appointees or "civil servants" aka bureaucracy, has grown far too large and should be scaled back tremendously. Further, the USA is a Republic of Sovereign States with the Federal Government for protection of borders and interstate commerce as outlined in the Constitution.
For instance, something like the Department of Education, is overstepping the role of Federal Government, and I think the statistics prove me correct. I also believe that FBI/CIA has been weaponized in favor of what would historically been perceived as Un-American activities across the globe. Let's start with the Iran-Contra affair and the very well known fact of cocaine running ruining the mostly black inner cities of the 1980's. This in my opinion is something heads should roll for, and those involved should be held accountable and thrown in jail. I think these people are POS, and frankly if you disagree with my statement, I think you are too. It's inhumane and disgusting.
To me, much of the US's power comes from its centralization and radically ceding that back to the states would leave it diminished on the world stage.
The CIA/FBI rabbit hole, to me, collapses down to the "Who watches the watchers?" question.
I'm of the opinion that there will always need to be clandestine activities (domestic and international), that proficiency in that domain generates outsized benefits to a nation, and that oversight should continually be improved and strengthened (but is fundamentally impossible to accomplish completely, due to the nature of the enterprise).
The neocons are all part of democratic apparatus now. Once it became known that they were not going to get war profiteering under Trump, they switched wagons. Democratic party is the party of neocons now.
Individual identities transcend binary party classification, especially over issues as complex as international engagement.
In the Democratic party, there's the group advocating for involvement on the basis of individual rights and one on the basis of supporting the post-WWII rule of law world order.
In the Republican party, there's still the group advocating for American exceptionalism. However, given that Republican presidents initiated the last two major wars (Afghanistan and Iraq), general party support for military interventionalism is at a low ebb. Give it a few more years for memories to reset (~2028).
Huh. now that they do not please their voters, conclusion is that they are infiltrated by neocons? I don't think they are changed. They just showed their true colors with the recent events.
I don't know why you're being downvoted, it is true. Even though Trump sucked, he did start 0 new wars. Whereas the current administration has signed us up for several conflicts, which the neocons love.
It seems like anything critical of the deep state get immediately downvoted here and then floats back up after a certain time. There also no argument given as to why the downvotes occur. Maybe downvotes with substantive replys should carry more weight?
And theres always shareblue monitoring forums, which is deeply embedded with spooks.
Unelecteds heavily vote democrat/big government because of job security. They don't care about your rights hence pro-FISA. As a matter of fact it appears many of them believe your rights are afforded to you by the government, which seems very totalitarian.
If the President is elected, and the President holds the power to staff the executive branch (subject to the approval of Congress and the restraints on arbitrary exercise of the CSA of 1883 and CSRA of 1978), then in what sense is the bureaucracy uncontrolled by the electorate?
Or do I misunderstand the American system of government?
getting moderate or traditional conservatives (let alone democrats or independents) to sign this is another matter entirely. FISA has become a babadook policy the US government would just as soon slowly forget about and expire, similar to GITMO and the more acerbic policies of the Bush administration during the WoT. these types of regulations enjoy pretty unilateral disapproval because they have the potential to bite the hand that feeds.