> it's honestly a nice visual improvement over 10 imo
O_O
Good hypothetical gods.
Long term Windows user here, before I defected to Linux (supplemented with Mac OS X) in about 2002. I started on Windows 2.01 in 1988.
The best version of Windows ever was 2000, and it's been accelerating downhill since then. The last version that was pleasant to use, and the best-looking, was Windows 7. Win8.0 brought in the flat look that destroyed all visual appeal. Win 8.1 reinstated a broken crippled copy of the Start menu.
Win10 formalised that and it was minimally usable.
Now 11 is the one that I simply cannot bear to use at all.
Broken taskbar, glamorised into uselessless, pinned at the bottom when it should be at the side. Fitt's law making it easy to find the Start menu in a corner, a big easy target, broken: it now moves around floating somewhere left of bottom centre. It has advertising in it, in a paid product! WTAF? Ribbons everywhere, destroying the usability of the world-beating Explorer UI that the entire industry copied. The return of the deeply useless desktop widgets. The b0rked up MS web based video-conferencing tool is always there, always open, although I never ever use it. It constantly nags me about low free space in my never-used OneDrive, and I can't turn it off.
It is a horrible broken sh1tshow of an OS, the end of a proud dynasty.
I am really seriously shocked to find anyone might prefer it.
Honestly, I work with MacOS daily and very often on Linux. I use my Windows PC for gaming.
The UX for windows 7, 10 and 11 is literally the same for me except for some details. I press start and type a query and hit enter as soon as I see what I need appearing (i.e. immediately). I don't really care where that menu appears and I prefer my task bar on the bottom. Yes it looks a bit different across versions but it's not something I cannot get used to.
> I am really seriously shocked to find anyone might prefer it.
Prefer it? Not really. The core issue is they keep changing the GUI metaphors. Now at this point if you click on the right program you may see stuff from win3.11 all the way up to win11. With some GUI's stuck in 'the window is a max of 640x480 mode' and is crap to use on a even semi recent computer. Then is as tradition MS moves junk around into non logical places. Even the task manager has had junk moved around for no real reason and it really does not look better or worse than the win10 version it was however an 'ok' improvement upon the old win9x style.
The win8 debacle was them not testing it on users and thinking everyone would have a touch tablet for windows?! It shows. Win9x and WinXP you can see they did their usability studies. Then just decided to not do it anymore. Discoverability is terrible, usability is skewed across at least 7 different windows idioms and things you are used to doing just randomly disappear and reappear somewhere else (if you are lucky). Then tools are deprecated and replaced with new shiny but do the exact same thing but not quite and usually surrounded by techno bable. Just fix the old ones and update it please. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/deprecat...
The only reason I still use it is I am fairly committed to this eco system. Moving to another one is possible but not something I really want to do. Just upgrading a computer is a painful thing for me to do at this point much less changing to another OS. It gets more and more tempting as WINE gets better and better.
> Moving to another one is possible but not something I really want to do. Just upgrading a computer is a painful thing for me to do at this point much less changing to another OS.
At some point the pain of moving will probably be less than the pain of these constant borkedness-upgrades.
And quite possibly that point is already somewhere in your past.
I use all 3 of these systems usually many times a month. My biggest complaint is junk moving around for no real good reason. Changing OS's makes that issue much worse. plus the fun of finding software that I use to get things done may or may not work anymore. I use some software that has not had updates in 15 years...
Yes! YES.
> it's honestly a nice visual improvement over 10 imo
O_O
Good hypothetical gods.
Long term Windows user here, before I defected to Linux (supplemented with Mac OS X) in about 2002. I started on Windows 2.01 in 1988.
The best version of Windows ever was 2000, and it's been accelerating downhill since then. The last version that was pleasant to use, and the best-looking, was Windows 7. Win8.0 brought in the flat look that destroyed all visual appeal. Win 8.1 reinstated a broken crippled copy of the Start menu.
Win10 formalised that and it was minimally usable.
Now 11 is the one that I simply cannot bear to use at all.
Broken taskbar, glamorised into uselessless, pinned at the bottom when it should be at the side. Fitt's law making it easy to find the Start menu in a corner, a big easy target, broken: it now moves around floating somewhere left of bottom centre. It has advertising in it, in a paid product! WTAF? Ribbons everywhere, destroying the usability of the world-beating Explorer UI that the entire industry copied. The return of the deeply useless desktop widgets. The b0rked up MS web based video-conferencing tool is always there, always open, although I never ever use it. It constantly nags me about low free space in my never-used OneDrive, and I can't turn it off.
It is a horrible broken sh1tshow of an OS, the end of a proud dynasty.
I am really seriously shocked to find anyone might prefer it.