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I'd start by removing this false dichotomy between Arch and Debian. I think doing this unfairly promotes Debian in a light that is unwarranted. Debian is not easier or more stable(for desktop), that is just the marketing niche they fell under. Not to mention, there are many more families than Arch and Debian. To me, nothing holds a candle to Fedora.

Debian is fine for servers, but due to it using outdated Kernels and software, it makes being a daily user difficult.

Bought a nvidia GPU laptop with trackpad in 2023? On Debian, the GPU, Trackpad, and reddit videos are all going to require grandmas to breakout the terminal just to use them. (FYI the GPU thing is finally updated as they moved to Kernel 6)




> Debian is not easier or more stable(for desktop), that is just the marketing niche they fell under.

What? Debian is absolutely easier than Arch - it defaults to shipping a GUI and installation has been handled by a wizard for ~forever, while Arch long preferred "here's a live CD and a wiki page about how to manually construct a system" - and anything with actual releases is more stable than Arch's rolling approach ("stable" being in the sense of "if it worked yesterday it'll work tomorrow").

> Bought a nvidia GPU laptop with trackpad in 2023? On Debian, the GPU, Trackpad, and reddit videos are all going to require grandmas to breakout the terminal just to use them. (FYI the GPU thing is finally updated as they moved to Kernel 6)

Yes, new hardware is likely to need new drivers. Of course, once you hack in the bleeding edge packages it's hardly a stable/LTS OS anymore regardless.


The false dichotomy is that you keep referencing Arch.

No one is disagreeing "Debian is absolutely easier than Arch"

Fedora, Endavour, OpenSUSE, may be easier than Debian. (Fedora is)

You fell for the exact false dichotomy by placing Arch vs Debian. There isnt 2, there is a circle of options, and Debian is not part of the consumer/daily driver circle.




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