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>So thoughts occur independent of language

Independent of language as the conscious surface level mechanism, maybe - as in, they don't have to be in English, say. But independent of language altogether, including symbolic language encoded into brain structures, I wouldn't be so sure.

Language doesn't have to mean conscious internal monologue.




> Language doesn't have to mean conscious internal monologue.

Agreed, but boy do I wish we had better words (ha!) for this.

Calling everything "language" even if someone internally has a more visual or tactile or some other kind of "internal grammar" really gives an unfortunate tilt to casual conversation.

For most people, in everyday discussion, "language" means words/text. I wish we had some term for "structured knowledge" that did not rely on the words/text analogy, since it can leave different-minded people feeling a bit sidelined.




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