On: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic f...

[thatsit]

So, as the nordic countries have experienced a cold winter this year, we are destined for a hot summer in europe?

[tokai → thatsit]

Besides the very northern parts it hasn't been cold. Spring flowers bloomed last week in Denmark.

[jeltz → tokai]

Stockholm was cold this winter and I would not say we are very northern.

[Y-bar → jeltz]

It might have felt colder than usual since there were a few really cold days and the years prior were very warm, but...

December 2023 in Stockholm was pretty much _average_

https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.203578.1706190685!/image/t...

And January a bit below average:

https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.204720.1708930291!/image/t...

February is on track on being above average with a record early spring.

[fy20 → tokai]

Here in Lithuania we had one day below -20c this winter. Usually we have at least one or two weeks like that. Now the snow has melted and it's spring, feels around 6 weeks too early.

[johnofthesea → tokai]

It was pretty cold in Oslo and that is not very northern.

[tokai → johnofthesea]

Its 6 degrees in Oslo right now - in February.

[johnofthesea → tokai]

I was posting it because there was -20 during winter. But now I checked [0] and it seems that anomalies are even further north.

[0] https://pulse.climate.copernicus.eu

[Moldoteck → tokai]

didn't oslo always been warm bc of ocean currents?

[magicalhippo → Moldoteck]

Ocean currents and winds, but January and February have traditionally been the coldest months.

[hef19898 → johnofthesea]

Weather =|= climate. Or one cold day doesn't make winter. Nor does one hot day make summer.

[jeltz → hef19898]

That applies in both directions and that was a response to someone saying it was warm in Copenhagen. I definitely do not doubt climate change but a warn winter in Copenhagen or a cold one in Oslo/Stockholm isn't climate, that is weather.

[baq → hef19898]

E.g. In Poland this has been the warmest February on record.

[hef19898 → baq]

In what used to be a snow-secure village in Bavarian alps, we had 12 degrees last week.

[paganel → baq]

Same for Romania, or close to the record, anyway. I don't remember any month of February where we had 20 degrees Celsius in mid-February, and I'm in my 40s.

[InCityDreams → hef19898]

>Nor does one hot day make summer.

You're not from the UK.

[hef19898 → InCityDreams]

Depends on your definition of summer: if you apply your expectations from an August holiday in southern France to August in the UK, that is your fault!

[InCityDreams → hef19898]

>Nor does one hot day make summer.

You're not from the UK.

[Y-bar → thatsit]

We had a handful of extreme cold days, but they were compressed in-between a late arrival of the winter and a too warm and early spring.