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Obviously. Anyone who has been severely stressed knows it's killing them.....except the doctors who cannot sell you something from their pill sponsors



In the UK, doctors will prescribe exercise, therapy, meditation, group activities as well as drugs if appropriate. What else can they do?

The issue isn’t the doctors, it’s that society, or even just the human condition, often makes it impossible to eliminate the source of chronic stress.


> The issue isn’t the doctors, it’s that society, or even just the human condition, often makes it impossible to eliminate the source of chronic stress.

Indeed, all my chronic stress can immediately be solved with large quantities of money.


I don’t know your specific situation but this is a pretty common fallacy that has been undermined by studies that show that most people do not experience increased happiness beyond income levels that cover their necessities and a bit more (it used to be around $75k/year in the US and with inflation might be around $100k now - I.e. having $5m / year isn’t going to be as impactful as you’d think. Money isn’t a panacea, and “wherever you go, there you are”).

I thought this way too, and then made a bunch of money to the point I no longer had to work after around 35. I can tell you first hand with my n=1 study that more money is not very impactful. You’re still you, with all the hangups and other things to work through. Focus on achieving income to meet your necessities and a bit more and then put your energy into relationships and your health and fitness, and hobbies. More money at the expense of these other things is a fool’s bargain.


As I said, all my chronic stress can immediately be resolved with a large amount of money, since the lack of is the direct cause of that stress.

I appreciate the “money doesn’t buy happiness” advice, even if it comes from someone that was financially independent at 35 - good for you! - but you are making some _wild_ assumptions about the causes of my chronic stress, none of which have to do with my hangups, or hobbies, or anything else like that.

I have had financial lows, with “low” being “homeless at 17” and I have had some financial highs, with “high” being “impactful startup exit”. I have never made assumptions about what would solve someone else’s’ problems, and I would dream of making the presumption of telling them that the thing they have identified as their issue isn’t really their issue.

$5m a year would make me plenty happy, thanks, and would absolutely allow me to focus on my health and fitness, and take up a hobby. Right now, there are not enough hours in the day for any of those kind of luxuries.


That study was flawed by the way, it turns out that more money does increase happiness.

So 75k is more the floor not a ceiling.

All it really supports is having universal basic income.


My stress based disorder is cluster headaches and they literally feel like death and all I can say is don't rely on doctors to help, diet changes are not in most western based docs playbooks, drugs which cover up and masks the problems are, try heavily modifying diet, start going into ketosis and see if you feel better after a couple months. It took me 8 years and the best healthcare around to reach this point. Cold shock seems to quite stress/inflammation as well. These things are freely available.

Other non drug alternatives: Meditation, acupuncture, camping, horse back riding, walks, runs, swimming all seem effective at lowering stress as well from my exp.


A friend of mine who had the same also tried everything.

Healthy livestyle in general and meditation are good obviously - but in his case drugs apparently did help: LSD and psybicilin. To let go of some stress inducing thought patterns. ( he did use lots of it for some time) So in his case it was largely a success - but of course it can also go very wrong. So I am not recommending it, just sharing a anecdota of a case where it was helpful. As far as I understood, when you are experiencing cluster headaches - you are willing to try everything, to not experience it again, so all the best to you and anyone else experiencing it.


> Cold shock seems to quite stress/inflammation as well.

I am having trouble parsing this sentence. Did you mean "quiet"?


What do you propose the doctors should do instead in this situation?


It's just a petulant rant against authority figures. Ignore stuff like that.


Well at least they’re not prescribing you benzos.




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