Hi, your first comment ("Life is a hellhole") makes me think that you don't seem to be in a great place mentally right now. It's definitely your choice, and your decisions, but I would advice to review those views with someone else other than the internet. Whatever works for you - a friend, a therapist, a family member or a priest.
Consider this: despite life being "a hellhole full of tragedies", hopefully you don't resent your parents for giving birth to you?
My view is that life is both: full of tragedies and hardship, yes. But also full of wonders and joy. It's a full package, you seem to be only seeing one half of it. And to be clear: children are the same. A package, with joy and love and laugther but also hard work and tiredness and effort.
Hopefully this comment does not sound condescending to you, I am really trying to help. Have a very nice day.
Life is composed of both happiness and tragedies, but tragedies by far outnumber the happiness. If I were to specify an exact number, perhaps somewhere in the vicinity of 9:1 tragedies:happiness.
Some of the tragedies are also guaranteed and unavoidable from the moment you are born.
My conclusion is the result of a long internal deliberation fraught with weighing the countless factors which compose life. This conclusion is mine and mine alone and everyone else should draw forth their own rather than take mine as gospel or inspiration.
I simply do not value life highly enough to be worth forcing another life into experiencing it. I am perfectly happy to have my bloodline and heritage end with my death; it is not worth continuing whatever the arguments put forth.
> Life is composed of both happiness and tragedies, but tragedies by far outnumber the happiness. If I were to specify an exact number, perhaps somewhere in the vicinity of 9:1 tragedies:happiness.
> Some of the tragedies are also guaranteed and unavoidable from the moment you are born.
That's a grim perspective of life. For your personal life, do you think that the happiness you've experienced worth the tragedies that have happened to you? If so, don't you want another human (your child) to experience the same?
If it's not worth it, what makes you keep on living, then? (Assuming that you do.) Or do you wish that you had never been born in the first place?
>For your personal life, do you think that the happiness you've experienced worth the tragedies that have happened to you?
To be brutally honest: No.
I'm sorry if that answer makes anyone uncomfortable.
>If it's not worth it, what makes you keep on living, then? (Assuming that you do.)
I don't want to force the sadness of my death upon my parents and friends; I'll die sooner or later, but there's a difference between the Grim Reaper calling up my number and me just kicking down his door.
>If so, don't you want another human (your child) to experience the same?
I answered the prior question in the negative already, but I will answer this question anyway: No, I don't want to force any experience, good or bad, upon my hypothetical child. I think setting down rails as a parent and pushing my children down them is a gross violation of human rights, specifically the human right to liberty.
If anything, it's the child who gets to set down the rails and demand I, as their parent, help them travel it regardless of my own wishes. Not the other way around.
>Or do you wish that you had never been born in the first place?
If I had the opportunity to answer that question before coming into existence, with the life experience I have today? No, I would have wished to not be born and continued to enjoy solace in the vast void of nothingness.
If you truly believed what you said you believe, you'd wish you and all humans and all living things die asap, instantly, and painlessly from supernova or something. That way, all living things could leave together this horrible world you said. Death is better than life.
You might also wish that the Big Bang had produced matter and antimatter the exact same amount, so they would have perfectly canceled out, and there wouldn't be any matter at all in the universe. Nothing is better than something.
Why are you extrapolating my conclusion as gospel for the masses?:
>My conclusion is the result of a long internal deliberation fraught with weighing the countless factors which compose life. This conclusion is mine and mine alone and everyone else should draw forth their own rather than take mine as gospel or inspiration.
I couldn't care less what others do with their lives, so long as they don't harm or trouble others. It's none of my business.
> I couldn't care less what others do with their lives
From your previous comments, you care about your parents and friends and future children. So now change "all humans" in my previous reply to "people you care"—what's your response?
> This conclusion is mine and mine alone and everyone else should draw forth their own rather than take mine as gospel or inspiration.
If you honestly thought that, you wouldn't have shared your long opinion in this thread. People share comments on HN for others to discuss and debate. You can't just share something and defend it by saying it's your personal thought. Just keep it to yourself, then.
Consider this: despite life being "a hellhole full of tragedies", hopefully you don't resent your parents for giving birth to you?
My view is that life is both: full of tragedies and hardship, yes. But also full of wonders and joy. It's a full package, you seem to be only seeing one half of it. And to be clear: children are the same. A package, with joy and love and laugther but also hard work and tiredness and effort.
Hopefully this comment does not sound condescending to you, I am really trying to help. Have a very nice day.