My YouTube process must be very corner case. I usually keep an eye on subscriptions during the day and add the videos I want to watch to watch later and then order them a special way. House and trailers first, entertainment, fitness and then music. I have a separate watch later for the gym that I curate in a similar order for long treadmill runs. And that gets downloaded to the phone.
I do this every day. YouTube’s changing interface designs usually make this harder and harder.
Being able to order by channel groups would actually help this but I usually watch via AppleTV app in the evening.
Apparently very few people use watch later and order intentionally. Just two actions to corner case myself.
I do the exact same thing and couldn't imagine using YouTube another way.
YouTube sometimes hides the watch later option, which is getting annoying (it only shows up at certain screen widths now on non-app), but I can usually find a way (even if I have to resort to emailing the URL, then later dropping it in a wider browser window on my desktop.
(Only difference is I actually drag longer videos towards the top of the list since they can sit there a while until I get a few minutes to actually watch them).
The problem I've always had is making it habit. I've created different play lists and added videos to them and watch later, but forget about them and then notice weeks later I have stuff in my watch later list I never watched.
Put another way, I find adding to watch later easy, but I find remembering there's stuff there to watch very hard. I'm sure YouTube could make this much easier, but I doubt they view intentional watching as better than stumbling through random stuff for hours.
How many minutes/hours a day do you spend curating your subscriptions? This sounds fairly exhausting looking at it throughout the day, every day. Surely you'd be able to achieve the same effect curating your subscriptions at the end of the day, or even end of the week.
It's literally minutes, not a big deal, but I also curate content for my child around shared interests. Youtube has channels and playlists and barely wants you to use them.
With this strategy, I've often seen videos from my favorite YouTubers within minutes of them posting a new video. It also allows me to "finish" watching YouTube for the day.
My version of this is news feed eradicator extension (to block any algorithmic sections on YT), plus ublock origin to block shorts element shown in subscriptions.
How is it different from YouTube subscriptions page? As I understand it will hide any old ones since last refresh compared to the YT subs page which will show all.
I am not a fan of the “upcoming” or scheduled videos. I wish there was a way to remove shorts and upcoming videos from my subscription page on YouTube.
I forgot shorts exist, there are ublock origin filters that work beautifully. I haven't blocked the upcoming ones because there are very rare in my feed and I just unsubscribed from the few notorious offenders
Not the same but since YouTube still has RSS support you can add your favorite channels to an rss reader and get notified about new videos (and unfortunately also shorts)
Thanks but all these alternative front ends are not really a solution most of the time as I still rely on native YouTube features a lot (playlists, recommendations, notifications, etc.)
Yep! That's what Invidious uses. That's what I use to subscribe to channels. The main view does not separate shorts from normal videos neither though. I guess some could implement this in the future.
It uses a playlist (to triage into) and google drive's application specific storage (so not access to other google drive files) for state, so is entirely client side.
Mostly offtopic: This reminds me of the LiveJournal page where you could view all the latest images uploaded to that site. It was a mix of everything from news to porn and gave a small insight into the zeitgeist. It was also voyeuristic, and to this almost 50 year old it seems similar to the endless-refresh consumption of tiktok.
The web was definitely much, much smaller back then. You couldn't do something similar with any of the large social media sites, although maybe a small random sampling would work. I wonder if part of the perceived ills of social media are due to the sheer scale of it all? It's impossible to be "caught up" with anything anymore, there's always another trillion gallons pouring out of the firehose. Perhaps that's partly why HN endures, it stays small?
During the Small Web days it was possible to get "caught up" because the web was mostly niche. Now that the web encompasses most of society it's not possible to get "caught up" in the same way. You simply can't know about everything.
The Overwhelming Web requires the opposite strategy from FOMO. It requires aggressive pruning, unsubscribing, and careful curation of attention.
The niche underground nerdery has turned into a tidal wave of mainstream bullshit and trying to get "caught up" on that is the trap of the generation.
I remember some TED talk or some other tech talk where the presenter mentioned a Flickr stream of all newly uploaded photos. As you could only set the permissions after uploading photos, often, some private photos and scanned documents would appear in that stream for a few minutes.
I'll try this out. Currently I use PipePipe (NewPipe fork) and have subscription groups I use to pull the latest videos for a specific set of channels.
I tried logging in using my Google account, but I got this:
"Access blocked: tubemail.io has not completed the Google verification process
p.c.frankplads@gmail.com
tubemail.io has not completed the Google verification process. The app is currently being tested, and can only be accessed by developer-approved testers. If you think you should have access, contact the developer.
If you are a developer of tubemail.io, see error details.
For a similar reason I've been using https://pockettube.io/ for the past year, to manage my YT subscriptions, and it is one of the most impactful extensions I've installed.
Features I really like:
+ Subscription groups: When subscribing to channels you choose in what subscription group to put them. In your left sidebar you can see all your subscription groups and total the number of new videos they published.
- When you click on a subscription group from your left sidebar, it doesn't take you away from the current YT URL you're on. It just opens a well-integrated modal window from which you can see what's new. There you can also filter whether the videos watched/unwatched/shorts/uploads/live/.
+ Notifications when a new video video is published in a certain subscription group. For example last year I wanted to keep up with the latest Stable Diffusion developments, so I had a group for this, with high quality channels only, and wanted to be notified when a new video is published.
It feels like more people should know about this extension. Somehow I feel I've found it pretty late in the game, when I realized YT's default subscription management was very painful to me.
I do this every day. YouTube’s changing interface designs usually make this harder and harder.
Being able to order by channel groups would actually help this but I usually watch via AppleTV app in the evening.
Apparently very few people use watch later and order intentionally. Just two actions to corner case myself.