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> Imagine that you created a monopoly by forcing users to switch to your product.

Oh for crying out loud, NOBODY is forced to use iPhones. Can we stop this narrative already?




Many aspects of society dictate that we use a phone. Apple forbidding interoperability of the phones so that you’re either all in or all out is anti competitive.


I am. Your point needs to be stronger.


How's this for stronger? You're weak if you got a device you don't want because someone else said you should get it.


Not everyone is in the position to turn down a job because of a moral stance on the device(s)/tools they are assigned. Even if you think they are "weak" saying that to continue to fan the flames isn't going to help anything. Why not argue why you think those types of use cases shouldn't impact the decision instead?


Who said anything about turning down a job? You're just moving the goalposts at this point.

Everyone has their own personal device. I chose iPhone. But if I had a job where I had to use an Android for some reason, I wouldn't feel I was FORCED to use an Android, because I would only use that device for work related things, and my preferred device, the personal iPhone for everything else.


The goalposts remain the same, it's a one example of what they are. Some people are forced into situations they have to use one product over another, the situation isn't a matter of people having equal footing to just choose a non-integrated device all the time.

Of course you're welcome to use another device for your personal things but this doesn't mean the other choice limitations of the device in the required case are no longer present.

Personally I don't like whether an example of being boxed in is present as a decider though. My argument against it, instead of saying it just never happens, is that there needs to be a critical mass of occurrences. I.e. I think there are costs to both choosing to regulate or not regulate and it's a matter of when one outweighs the other not as much when some specific event occurs to some people. So, while many people do have to use Apple products for certain things in certain scenarios, it's not necessarily wrong by that fact. It's that it's so entrenched. I wouldn't call it a monopoly but I also don't want to wait until things are that bad to ever do anything, otherwise you end up with Microsofts doing massive damage before being reeled in.




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