2. Involves a 3rd party (yes, yes, we can argue that HR is not your friend, etc.), which _can_ help with the trust (it's not just you & me anymore, you not knowing how I twist my story of you)
I get all the skepticism. I simply have different experience.
Yes I agree it does does 2 things, but remember my argument was to qualify that in the cases I mentioned I didn't think a PIP was passable. It doesn't mean you don't still have to do it, and yes, I guess in some extreme cases this raising of the stakes could be the thing that finally makes it "click" for the person that this is important. I just have seen enough PIPs and their pass-rates over a few years that I doubt them as a practical tool to actually get people to pass it. If that was the point companies wouldn't come up with a process with such a low pass-rate and would always be working to tweak the PIP process to increase pass-rates. Of course you might have different experience than this and I'll probably also change my mind if I see different outcomes in other contexts later on in life.
I appreciate the context, and I definitely wasn't trying to say you're not right with your experience! We simply seem to have different experiences, I probably got luckier a bit.
1. Raises the stakes
2. Involves a 3rd party (yes, yes, we can argue that HR is not your friend, etc.), which _can_ help with the trust (it's not just you & me anymore, you not knowing how I twist my story of you)
I get all the skepticism. I simply have different experience.