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It is interesting to see how a handful of writers (especially Phillip K Dick!) really dominated the genre.

Also a few forgotten gems I am going to have to reread now.




I like the list.

It's the kind of list an English professor might make, not necessarily a sci-fi fan. In particular, Dick's genius was recognized only after his death.

Even though sci-fi sometimes rises above other genre literature, it's not taken that seriously by literary types. Baudrillard talks a lot about Dick and Ballard and that's it. Stanislaw Lem (whose Cyberiad ought to be on that list instead of The Futurological Congress) himself said that Phillip K. Dick was on a whole other level than other sci-fi writers.

Notably the list subverts the category of "novel" by adding a lot of things (comic books, concept albums) that aren't really novels.

I think Fred Pohl is missing (say Gateway) and also Joe Halderman (Worlds!). I'd rather see any Frank Herbert book but Dune (say Whipping Star or The Santaroga Barrier.) For that matter I'd like to see something from Heinlein before he had the stroke like The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or Glory Road. I'd also want to see Niven's Neutron Star (a set of short stories that read like a novel) but despite some "new wave" sensibilities Niven comes across as reactionary today because the Tor Books revival (Forge of God and Enders Game) of sci-fi in the 1980s liked Heinlein and Niven and Doc Smith better than LeGunn, Dick, Ballard, Herbert, etc.

On the other hand, put a sci-fi fan in charge of making this list and it's no doubt they'll add a stick of books from some author who is a "no account" in literary circles like Piers Anthony -- still I would try to slip him in at his most psychedelic.


> Dick's genius was recognized only after his death

Yes and no. It should certainly be noted that he was very popular during his life, not a nearly unknown author. Book clubs selected multiple of his novels, as one of many examples of that.

His stuff became a huge fad when they made many movies based on his works, but that's not the same thing as him previously being an unsung genius.


PKD’s books didn’t generally sell all that well during his life. In those days the sfbc picked up everything. And most of his books were OP when he died. I can remember having to scrounge around for them.


Hmm. In light of that, maybe it would have been more accurate if I said he was famous rather than popular, and for all I know it was only the Science Fiction Book Club that gave him that degree of fame?

His stuff is weird, and therefore a niche/acquired taste.


Could you please provide evidence such as a list to publishers sales figures?


This is a list for New Wave SciFi, not all SciFi, and Pohl and Halderman are usually not considered as "New Wave" authors.


> Dick's genius was recognized only after his death.

Which we should give credit for: I only found PKD due to Jonathan Lethem's advocacy. PKD fans are likely to enjoy Lethem's sci-fi, especially Gun, With Occasional Music.

The crew of writers responsible for elevating PKD from pulp to cult deserve some attention, especially from PKD fans (aka "Dick-heads", which is just the most perfect name for a fandom).

> I'd like to see something from Heinlein before he had the stroke like The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Plus one for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. That's probably the best of Heinlein's work.


Very rarely can I say with all sincerity "I am a Dick-Head"


Pkd was a genius, an addict, and most importantly, got paid by the page.

Jonathan Letham's Amnesia Moon (mentioned at the bottom) is my favorite "how pkd would write if he weren't ripped on speed 24/7"

Guess it's time to reread it. And ubik, and fmytps, and the lathe of heaven, and hyperion, and embassytown and...


If you haven’t, check out “Philip K Dick is Dead, Alas,” by Micheal Bishop. Same vibes — Dick without the speed :)


I feel this was the winter of sci-fi.

I enjoyed Dune and Androids but the rest are mostly meh. A lot of DNF books for me (including Slaughterhouse-Five, which I know has its fans but I really disliked)


I'm curious to hear more about why you feel this was the winter of sci-fi! Can you share some more besides personal preference? (I'm not a huge Vonnegut fan or even big reader in general and Slaughterhouse-Five and Cat's Cradle were pretty far from DNF for me.)


I feel similarly. However, I absolutely love Vonnegut, but don't see his work as scifi. Sure it has all the elements, but the themes are mostly different. To me the best scifi is about a technology that could exist and plays through all the consequences. Slaughterhouse Five isn't that, it's about WWII. (From my definition one might guess correctly that I see space opera as a derogatory term)


I heard that his writing could have been a way to process what he went through during the war. That could explain the darkness.

There is a modern fantasy writer that writes quite dark stories. I read that this is because of a very sick family member, and some of his best books have been written in a hospital room. While I applaude both for turning something bad into something good, these sort of books are just not my cup of tea. And I think a lot of people are like me. We read books to get away from the problems of real life, not dive into other people's troubled minds.


"And I think a lot of people are like me. We read books to get away from the problems of real life, not dive into other people's troubled minds."

That certainly makes sense and is of course also a subjective preference. To me great insights lie in the darkness, but it isn't for everyone and not at any time.


I couldn’t disagree more. The new wave is where SF starts to get interesting for me, and is when a lot of my favourite authors got started.




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