On: U.S. agency declares 21 species now extinct

[d_sem]

This is a reminder that the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people and radical change will be the only solution.

We could do with fewer people. In 2000 there was ~6.1 billion and the world was just fine.

[abletonlive → d_sem]

>In 2000 there was ~6.1 billion and the world was just fine.

This entire comment is junk assertions based on nothing but this part is hilarious in particular.

[jklinger410 → d_sem]

> the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people

Not sure what you are citing for this, but I would assume this is less than 8 billion people based on our current pollution and consumption rates.

This stat is a mind-blowing one also considering the sheer amount of empty space still available on the planet. With good resource management and terraforming you'd think this number would be a lot larger.

[adrr → d_sem]

Most of the extinctions happened when there were less than 10m people. All the large mammals and birds got wiped out during humans hunting and gathering phase.

[xupybd → d_sem]

In 2000 people were predicting the end of the world. They didn't think it was fine then just as much as you don't think it's fine now.

[xupybd → xupybd]

To add to that. https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1726367540354363678?t=s7W23...

[lebean → d_sem]

Most of us are doing alright, relatively speaking.

[nosefurhairdo → d_sem]

Call me crazy, but I value 2 billion human lives above that of a few endangered bird species.

[shmoe → nosefurhairdo]

They will say our arrogance did us in at some point in the next thousand years. Humans are a virus and a blight on this planet.

[philwelch → shmoe]

You first.

[shmoe → philwelch]

Me first what?

[philwelch → shmoe]

When you say “humans are a virus and a blight on this planet”, there is an obvious implied “solution” to that. To which I retort: you first.

[shmoe → philwelch]

Certainly one issue where I'm a bit biased to being part of the problem. Observing things doesn't express a belief necessarily, though it is my opinion.

[edhelas → nosefurhairdo]

And I value 2 billions more as well.

And 2 billions more.

And...