On: PHP Sucks But I Like It

[maratd]

> And, on the flip side, if you want to install configure PHP yourself, it's actually not that easy.

http://www.lifelinux.com/how-to-install-nginx-and-php-fpm-on...

Looks pretty easy to me.

Then again, I compile my own version of Apache with FastCGI and PHP-FPM all the time.

[Lazare → maratd]

True, that's pretty easy. But it's also just as easy as getting most other language or frameworks up and running. And since the argument I was replying to was that PHP was good because those other languages are too hard to configure then, implicitly, PHP is too hard to configure - at least for the guy I was replying to.

And if you're relying on your webhost having your language-of-choice already configured for you, well, you can find webhosts with most of the obvious choices already configured. So what does that leave?

I would suggest that PHP does not, today, have any advantage over other competing languages and frameworks in the "it just works" sweepstakes.

[tambourine_man → maratd]

Was going to say the same, yum makes it very easy.

What we need is a Douglas Crockford for PHP.

A “PHP: the good parts” and a good PHPlint would do wonders to the language and community.

[sgerrand → tambourine_man]

As previously discussed on HN, Robert Eisele's fork of PHP (at v5.3.6) which attempts to fix many of the issues.

http://www.xarg.org/2011/06/php-hacking/