Yeah like I'm totally fine with the phrase when it is actually something that doesn't happen in a socialist system but it's just become a standin for "bad". But there's things that are bad that are divorce of capitalism and socialism. I mean... what I referred to is more a result of the human condition and specialization. And I'm not sure why every response is always followed up with a great assumption that I'm capitalist. I'll dunk on capitalism and I'll dunk on communism, but they aren't really related to the topic at hand and don't need to be ham fisted into everything. Weren't we literally complaining about politization and bureaucratization? Those definitely exist in literally all forms of governments, from anarchist to dictatorships. Can we just talk about the thing we're actually trying to talk about? SMH
Exactly. It's just "capitalism = bad" now, there's no nuance of understanding of the pros and cons. Ultimately, human organization is the same everywhere and there will always be bureaucracy, as you say.
