Metrics hacking is the beating heart of every corporation. Private corporations are the core of capitalism. How did you come to the conclusion that is a result “bureaucratization and politicization” instead?
Because bureaucracies and politics also existed under every communist regime. They exist in anarchist communities. They exist in households. But the difference is the degree of separation you are from those in power structures. And before you say that anarchism doesn't have a power structure (and there's many forms of anachism, just as there are many forms of socialism, communism, libertarianism, capitalism, liberalism, etc) if a power structure isn't explicit it is implicit. Which is rather well known in anarchist literature. We saw metric hacking in The Soviet Union, in The US, in China, in The UK, in Germany, France, Cuba, Colonial Korea, Colonial India (hell, we even got a stats term that everyone now knows out of that one), Feudal Europe, and far back into the Greeks, Ancient China, and as far back as we have literature. Which last I checked, most of those things predate capitalism but do not predate bureaucrats nor politics.
I hate to break it to you, but not everything is about economics.
Your answer implied that science is not hindered by the incentives that exist within a capitalist society, as the parent suggested. Was science hindered in the same way in the soviet union, in early US history, China, UK, Germany, France, ancient greece and so on?
I don't recall having heard about the greeks complaining on how they had to fine-tune their treaties for the review board or journal acceptance.
> Your answer implied that science is not hindered by the incentives that exist within a capitalist society
Weird take considering I'm complaining about things that happen in America and I'm not sure of anyone who would claim America isn't capitalist (well... at least not communist, but let's not get in the weeds there). Of course science is hindered by incentives driven by capitalism. But science is also hindered by incentives driven by communism. That's my entire point.
> I don't recall having heard about the greeks complaining on how they had to fine-tune their treaties for the review board or journal acceptance.
Sure. But I do recall ancient Greeks murdering people who "believed" in irrational numbers. Idk about you, but I'd call this a step up. You're acting like there's a system that has no flaws or that if a flaw doesn't exist in one area we can ignore all other flaws. Which, ironically is metric hacking
Woof if you don’t think metric hacking wasn’t a huge part of Russian communist bureaucracy your don’t know your history.
Like my dude quota systems were at the heart of all successful capitalist, socialist, communist, and fascist nations. I can give examples. My man your logic is deeply flawed.
Because it’s wildly obvious that bureaucracies are the organizational form of control whether you choose a capitalist, fascist or socialist or communist system, it’s been proven over and over in everything from the NHS to shareholder capitalism to communist industrialism. They all relied on metric measured bureaucracies. I mean it’s a part of basic history here that you seem to be entirely missing.
If you want a hyper explicit example it would be the cybersin project in socialist Chile.
