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I'm confused. We know persuasive humans exist, we employ them as politicians or sales people. There are also many unpersuasive humans.

Given we seem to have a decent range of persuasiveness even amongst these very very similar minds, why do you think the upper limit for persuasiveness is a charismatic human?

Though even if that WAS the limit I'd still be somewhat worried due to the possibility of that persuasiveness being used at far greater scale than a human could do...




>Given we seem to have a decent range of persuasiveness even amongst these very very similar minds, why do you think the upper limit for persuasiveness is a charismatic human

Because there's a hard limit on how much people can be made to act against their own self interest.


Ever heard of the Jonestown Massacre? Suicide seems to be a fairly consequential upper limit.


Is there really? Some religious orgs have gotten quite good at getting people to blow themselves up for the promise of 77 virgins after death.




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