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$0.42/kWh!??! Jesus Christ. I think I'm paying around $0.0629/kWh. Where is this?



https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... “Average Price of Electricity to Ultimate Customers by End-Use Sector, by State, August 2023 and 2022 (Cents per Kilowatthour)” — according to this, both $0.42/kWh and $0.06/kWh would be outliers, relative to any state-wide residential averages.


Presumably PG&E territory in the bay area.

We're in Alameda, who run their own utility and buys their power from PG&E and our rates are $0.15/kwh. I don't know how PG&E still exists as an entity, they were deserving of the pitchforks a long while ago.


The cost of the power itself is not the driving cost of electricity, it's the distribution and grid maintenance costs. PG&E can sell power delivered easily and in bulk to Alameda in the heart of the bay area quite cheaply. Delivering the same kWh to all of the smaller communities in the rural north third of the PG&E coverage area is where much of the costs are.


In Sunnyvale, I averaged over $.50/kwh.


Hello fellow Alamedan! AMP is great — very grateful for a little abstraction between us an PG&E, despite it being all the same at the end of the day...


.42 is cheap for PG&E, it goes up to .6 at peak times. PG&E is completely corrupt and broken. Utilities do not belong in the private sector.


I moved out of CA but it was already 0.40 a couple years ago. My friends told me it’s close to 0.60 now. I’m more curious where you are, I’m in a low(er) cost of living and I still pay 0.17.


We're around there (hand-waving here about exchange rate) in Scotland. What's fucked up is that most of the UK's power is generated in the north and yet electricity rates are based on how far you are from London.


That doesn't sound that crazy.

Much of your energy bill is distribution costs, which is a combinational of infrastructure costs and transmission losses.

Transmission losses will be small anywhere in the UK (because it's tiny), but infrastructure costs will vary a lot based on population density.

It's cheaper to erect a few large transmission lines to London than it is to distribute power around the less dense North.


PG&E current rates:

https://www.pge.com/tariffs/Res_Inclu_TOU_Current.xlsx

average billing is currently 38.2c/kwh


It is the "you are using too much electricity" rate when having a non-TOU rate in SoCal.

I figured I should aim high since the number was so low.


Pay for electricity and actually get it? Luxury!

Here in South Africa the rate is about 0.15 (USD, depending on exchange rate), but they keep turning off the electricity because the state-owned utility cannot make enough of it. Load shedding they euphemistically call it instead of the blackouts it really is. Of course they also complain about loss of revenue because we use and thus pay for less kWh if they keep turning it off.


$0.06?! Jesus, where is that?!


Somewhere with real time pricing. The cheapest normal pricing is down around 12-13 cents per kWh. Granted due to the enormous nuclear base load in Chicago, I routinely pay 1-2 cents per kWh. I paid zero cents at 4am.


Jealous! Paying about $0.30 here in the UK


Central Ohio [1]. I didn't realize it was so cheap.

1. https://www.betterbuyenergy.com/ - Zip 43215


California.




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